S&W Model 17

[Tam 3]

CCI sells a .22 Long CB that has the same length case and bullet weight as the generic Long , just about 400 fps less muzzle velocity. Fits any LR chamber without the dreaded chamber carbon ring. Quieter, as well.

Regards,

Tam 3

 

[Speedo2]

A person could shoot all sorts of things from a K22:

 

[Speedo2]

But here's my favorites:

 

[Speedo2]

And when I'm "flush":

 

[skwchock]

I went to the Dulles Gun Show (Chantilly, VA). There were many pallets with cases of ammo (primarily 9mm, .223/5.56 ). People were buying cases and hauling them out on carts!!! By the second day of the gun show, most of the pallets were empty. I did find that there was a good supply of .22 shorts available. I bought a few boxes to shoot.

 

[Fanner50]

.22 shorts still have their place in the ammo line up, especially in a revolver.

 

[cmansguns]

My Ruger Single-Six convertible (22/22WMR) will shoot anything you put into it for 22. Way back, before even the 22 ammo shortage of some years back, I had "over -stashed" on 22 ammo of all kinds due to my kids all were of a beginning shooting age and we had access to a farm so unlimited "range" time so to speak.

The kids loved the Ruger, took their time (SAO helps here), learned good shooting habits, and also learned good cleaning skills. The stainless cleans very easily

22 Shorts (CCI-Speer, 27 gr. CP HP) at 1105 fps produced basically, no recoil, no noise....but maximum fun plinking and learning. Still do out of that Ruger, but NOT in my Model 17-3, only because I'm not wanting to scrub the chambers every time out...easier just to use 22 LR (usually Win-SuperX, CP HP, 37 gr at 1280 fps).

One long gun I have simply MUST run 22 Long Rifle and that's the Remington Nylon 66....a real treat and hoot to shoot, but it just has to have 22LR to function (at least mine does).

Kids are grown and gone, but still hit the range with me when home, just don't take out the Ruger much anymore, and their desire to be seen around the local range with a low slung cowboy gun in a Galco western holster/belt rig has gone away like yesterday's newspaper. Just looked......still have 300 rounds of 22 Short in ammo storage....hmm....1 grandson turning 14 in October.....here's hoping someone still likes cowboy guns/rigs!
I know he likes to handle my Winchester 94 lever gun, so maybe.

 

[jjfitch]

.22 Short, Long and LR

Am I the only one here that can remember the days of shooting JR. NRA matches in the high school basement or attic. Or shooting in our own attics or basements?

.22 Shot and Long were purpose built for low noise and low power in bolt action rifles! We shot .22 shorts in rifles that barely made any noise. We didn't wear ear protection!

I still shoot rats in my backyard under the bird feeders with .22 CB and .22 shorts. Little to no noise out of a bolt action rifle. Pretty loud from a revolver though.

For cleaning revolver cylinders in my competition revolvers during matches I use very stiff fiber brushes available at medical supply stores used for cleaning medical equipment. I have these in sizes that fit .22, 38 and 45!

All the best,

 

[GypsmJim]

I have my Dad's Winchester bolt action rifle. The barrel is marked ".22 Short, Long or Long Rifle". It came with 2 detachable mags that had different size followers.

I also have a Stevens Visible Loader and a Savage pump. Both are also marked like the Winchester. With these 2 antiques one works (feeds) best with shorts and the other with longs.

Pre-ammo crisis, and when Gander Mountain was still in biz, they stocked several different flavors of CCI shorts and longs, but their price was significantly higher than bulk Federal LR.

 

[wundudnee]

I have rifles that are chambered in all the different .22 types. Winchester 1890s in specific calibers .22 short, .22 long, .22 long rifle, and .22 WRF. I have a few old single shot Winchesters chambered for short long and extra long. I have rifles and revolvers chambered for .22 WMRF. I have some ammunition in all the above calibers. However with the extra longs they are display only. .22Extra Long brings $400.00-$600.00 a box from collectors. I have a partial box. The WRF is sometimes a little hard to find, but CCI and Winchester have had some reruns over time. Everything else is generally available, but sometimes a little costly.

I am a .22 addict.

 

[MajorD]

Back when I was a kid, and the decades before that ( up to about the late 1970's I would say) 22 shorts and to some degree longs were very common and often found cheaper than long rifle. In today's market the reverse is true, with shorts ( if you can find them) usually a bit more expensive than LR. With today's crazy ammo shortages and such, if I found a good deal on shorts I would buy some, as revolvers don't care in regard to using shorts.
In rifles the report is much less and in some cases about as quiet as a pellet gun.

 

[Lobster Picnic]

Colibri and Super Colibri ammo is primer-only, with a 20gr bullet. The standard Colibri may not be powerful enough to exit some rifle barrels, so Super Colibri is recommended for rifles.

Neither one leaves a ring in my Model 17 chambers, probably due to no powder used.

 

[THE PILGRIM]

I consider Shorts to be more of a curse than a blessing
And as reported, Longs can be hard to find even in the Good Times.
So my drop back 22 load is Regular Speed Long Rifle.

 

[ggibson511960]

.22 Shorts in RG Revolver

My Grandmother had a cheap, Saturday night special RG revolver in .22 short that she would foolishly let us kids play with. It's quality level was on par with a BB gun or cap pistol, but it went bang. Fond memories of punching holes in a tin can at 10 feet with this feeble excuse for a handgun. Buying .22 shorts felt like buying a roll of toy caps.

 

[gfors]

Long vs long rifle: same case length, different bullet length. The longs seem less accurate out of my 617ND 6" than the LR's.

 

[bananaman]

Not enough 17 pictures on this thread, so here is my 17-2 from 1964. What a sweet shooter! Bob

 

[cmj8591]

Shorts used to be popular on the gallery circuit. There was slightly less recoil for the timed and rapid fire stages. Mostly it was in the eye of the beholder I think. In the early 70's, I started in the game with a model 41 chambered in 22 short. It was an original, not a conversion. I got strapped for cash and sold it for dirt. It was one of those transactions that I look back on and cringe! There are still a few shooting gallery with shorts now but they were expensive and hard to find even before the apocalypse. I think there is still a role for the short and CB for indoor practice and pest control around the yard.

 

[Jim Watson]

Once upon a time there were the .22 Short, Long, and Extra Long.
About 1887, Stevens put the 40 grain Extra Long bullet in the Long case and announced the .22 Stevens Long, Rifle. Note the comma.

 

[jcs266]

You can shoot shorts in your gun, and you can shoot your gun in your shorts! Oh, wait...you can shoot your gun while WEARING your shorts.

You're a natural Dr Suess...

 

[LostintheOzone]

I was given some shorts. Fun in a revolver though not quite hearing safe. I have a special mag for my 10/22 to shoot them, though they will short-stroke the action. You hold the bolt closed with your off-hand thumb.

.22 Longs are pretty hard to find. Same case length as Long Rifle, .22 Short bullet. The 30gr Aguila super high velocity stuff pretty much takes care of the Long niche unless you have a real antique. .22 Shorts remain with us b/c there are still plenty of working firearms chambered exclusively for it. The .22 Long, not so much.

If you find any .22 long at a reasonable price you should by those. I think they've been out of production for 50 years. I remember those being sold in the 60's but haven't seen any in a long time. You might find some in an estate sale or some other obscure place but most people know they're collectable.