S&W Pocket 9mm?

[VTHokiesDuckHunter]

Walther PPK as a Pocket 9

S&W imports the Walther PPS. Why would they make something they're already getting?

That's a pretty good point, and from a market share perspective it probably makes sense. Not so from a branding standpoint though. S&W needs their own pocket 9, as half of the public doen't even know that S&W owns Walther.

My son owns a PPS. I really like it. He is wanting to trade it though. He has had a couple of issues- one is a known glitch with it not re-setting the striker under certain conditions. Another one is that it now has a little too much up and down play with the slide and frame rails. He now wants the new compact scandium framed S&W 1911. (E series-with the fish scales)

I'm trying to convice him to get the Walther fixed first, and keep it, then save up and by the S&W 1911 E series.

I think part of the lesson here is that even the best polymer framed guns may be very effective tools that get the job done, but are not "aspirantional" items.

Would I buy an LC0 or SRc compact, or for that matter a M&P single stack compact? yes- if they were under $450. And it would get used hard. But I would still want to have a CS or 3913 type gun, or a Kimber Solo, etc. with a metal frame.

 

[Wee Hooker]

While not my "go too " for pocket carry, I have carried my M&P9C that way. It's only a fraction of an inch longer than a J frame snubbie in either direction > At 21 oz it weighs in close to the J frame as well.
Had a 3913 once and actually preffer the M&Pc for CC.

 

[VTHokiesDuckHunter]

Dave:

I'm much more of a metal framed "traditionalist" I also like to shoot and carry "modern" pistols at times. (although I think the 3913's are a very "modern" design).

My son has a Walther PPS which I like, and I've shot the full size M&P (very nice!) and FN's. I like the FN's because they are a hammer fired gun among other things- I just wish they had a more compact model available.

Also the Ruger SR9c seems to be a great handgun and very good value.

My question is, what are the reasons/things you like about the M&Pc better, compared to the 3913?

Those are two very nice pistols- it seems like it would be one of those questions like "which one of your kids do you like better?"

Is weight the primary factor for you?

 

[Wee Hooker]

Since you asked.....
I'm also a traditionalist. To the point that my main carry gun has always been a J frame. I always liked the reliability and the simple point and shoot system with the revolvers and never felt underguns with 5 rounds of hot 38. For this reason, I've seldom carried other (380/9mm) compact semi's as : a) I never 100% trusted their reliability and b) disliked their complexity to operate/clear under stress. c) didn't feel I needed more capacity.
Now, switching gears, the M&P was the first poly framed handgun of any kind that ever caught my attention. Once I tried my first, I owned 3 in short time. ( And ate allot of crow in front of my friends for doing so.) I became smitten with them that much. Mainly because of a) ergonomics b) weight c) I just can't get one to jam! d) lower felt recoil than most comperable semiautos.
One of those 3 M&P's was a 9c with a Apex trigger and no manual safety. Love it. Shoots more accuratly and with less felt recoil than the J frame in my hands and allows me the same simple point and shoot. This has been the first compact semi I've seen "advantage in" for my needs.

As for the 3913, I liked it well enough but didn't see the advantage of carring it. It weighed a bit more than the J or M&P, had an external safety and (mine) did hick-up with certain ammos. As for size, it was near identical in length to the M&PC in every way but width. With a good holster, the width is not a problem. Teh M&P is shorter in teh grip so it tends to print less for me as well.

Summary: I still carry my J frames 75% of the time but the M&Pc has seen allot more belt time than any other semi I've owned since it arrived.

I mention this not to sway you, just to suggest you look at/touch everything before deciding.
To each their own.

Dave:

I'm much more of a metal framed "traditionalist" I also like to shoot and carry "modern" pistols at times. (although I think the 3913's are a very "modern" design).

My son has a Walther PPS which I like, and I've shot the full size M&P (very nice!) and FN's. I like the FN's because they are a hammer fired gun among other things- I just wish they had a more compact model available.

Also the Ruger SR9c seems to be a great handgun and very good value.

My question is, what are the reasons/things you like about the M&Pc better, compared to the 3913?

Those are two very nice pistols- it seems like it would be one of those questions like "which one of your kids do you like better?"

Is weight the primary factor for you?

 

[VTHokiesDuckHunter]

Thanks Dave.

great advice and great follow up.

I've always like S&W revolvers better for range shooting and hunting, and really like the 686 platform.

For carry I've always preferred pistols for some reason, not so much for the added number of rounds though. ( 6 shots or 8/9, or even 14+1 with the 5906, doesn't matter that much to me).

I've been eying a M&P compact or SR 9c for times when I might have to leave them in the truck- will definitely have to try out some M&P compacts.

 

[justsumstuff]

pics for comparison?

Can someone post pics of the CS9 & a 3rd generation for comparison? Thanks!