S&W Schofield doubt

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i have buy this revolver , i have pay 1300 euro , i have doubt is an original S&W Schofield ? no mark US near serial number . Somebody can help me ?
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I believe you have an authentic 2nd model Schofield civilian gun ( non-military) as it does not have the US stamping and has the later June 20, '71 patent date. These civilian guns were usually guns that did not pass final inspection by the U S Army inspector and were then sold to S&W's distributors. They were refinished in nickel plating by the distributors and the ivory stocks were supplied by them , also. One clue that it is a genuine S&W Schofield is the small punch mark shown in your photo of the frame under the cylinder. The punch mark shows between the cylinder stop cut out and the recoil shield. That punch mark indicates the gun was test fired at the factory and passed the test. You should also be able to find military inspector's stamp on some parts, such as a "P," as these parts were passed by the inspector but when the gun was assembled for final inspection, it was rejected by the final inspector, who would have applied the "US" stamp on the butt if the gun passed. These civilian guns are much rarer than the martial guns with the US stamp, however most collectors want the martial guns and the market does not reflect the scarcity of the civilian guns, however 1300 Euros is not a bad price for the gun. It could bring twice that here in the US. Nice find. Ed.
 
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I believe you have an authentic 2nd model Schofield civilian gun ( non-military) as it does not have the US stamping and has the later June 20, '71 patent date. These civilian guns were usually guns that did not pass final inspection by the U S Army inspector and were then sold to S&W's distributors. They were refinished in nickel plating by the distributors and the ivory stocks were supplied by them , also. One clue that it is a genuine S&W Schofield is the small punch mark shown in your photo of the frame under the cylinder. The punch mark shows between the cylinder stop cut out and the recoil shield. That punch mark indicates the gun was test fired at the factory and passed the test. You should also be able to find military inspector's stamp on some parts, such as a "P," as these parts were passed by the inspector but when the gun was assembled for final inspection, it was rejected by the final inspector, who would have applied the "US" stamp on the butt if the gun passed. These civilian guns are much rarer than the martial guns with the US stamp, however most collectors want the martial guns and the market does not reflect the scarcity of the civilian guns, however 1300 Euros is not a bad price for the gun. It could bring twice that here in the US. Nice find. Ed.
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many thanks , i have found under the barrel is marked with "P" .
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Gunswater, The reason for failure to pass final inspection could be many things, however I suspect that a perceived flaw in the bluing might be one of then, as all the parts had already passed inspection. It is also possible that money might be involved. S&W got 3 times the price from the distributors who were crying for Schofields, than they were getting from the Gov't contract price, so maybe a few inspectors got a little "bonus" from S&W for being extra diligent in their inspection duties. Of course, that's mere speculation on my part, as we know there's never a funny business with Gov't contracts. ED.
 
Beautiful gun at a great price, go for it. Have no doubt, this is a great gun at an even better price.
I have the commercial Schofield with serial no 6637 (so 40 after "yours") and the factory letter states that "serial number 6637 was shipped from our factory on October 3, 1876 and delivered to M. W. Robinson, New York" further " This revolver was one of the first Model 3 Schofield Second Model to be shipped to the commercial market".
Mine is in blue finish but a factory nickel Schofield is a rare gun that I believe you will only find a few of amongst the guns for the commercial market.
Petter
 
Bona sira Italia,

Ha fattu na bella scoperta. Che bella pistola. Congratulazioni!


Best, Joe Sacco
 
Nice find, and I think a reasonable price for a genuine antique. NOTE that the .45 Schofield requires a shorter cartridge than the .45 ("Long") Colt used in the US Army's Colt Single-Action Revolvers, and a.45 Colr round of ammunition won't fit the chambers of yr Schofield cylinder. But .45 Schofield ammo is made by companies who supply ammo for cowboy action shooters. Black Hills Ammunition may have it.
 
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