S&W Triple Lock MKII .455 CAl.

[D'Angelo]

Can any of you Historian Buffs out there give any info on this gun?

 

[29aholic]

Not me, but it is NICE!!

 

[DCWilson]

That gun could be one of a bunch that were shipped to Shapleigh Hardware in December of 1917. The serial number is in the vicinity of the numbers on other guns that went there, but I don't know if the shipment consisted only of contiguous numbers. Does that gun chamber .455 Mk II or some other cartridge?

The star next to the serial number means that it went back to the factory for some kind of service. If you take off the stocks, you may see a number like, say, 10.28, which would identify October 1928 as the date of return. I don't know the company engraving patterns, but would wonder if this might be a company job. I can't see the detail well enough in the photos to know exactly how high the quality is. It looks like it might be very high indeed.

Very nice gun. Did it come to you with any story at all that might be researched and confirmed?

 

[handejector]

We need more pics.
A pic of the left gripstrap without the grips would be nice.
A good pic of the sideplate would be nice.
Then, just more pretty pics would be nice.

Some data is easy to supply-
It looks like all the guts are there, and they are very clean.
BTW- I see the screws in a pile. The FRONT screw in the sideplate is a fitted screw, and should always be replaced in the front hole. You have 2 outa 3 chances to be wrong, so segregate it when disassembling.

The engraving looks very nice, and has an English flavor to me. I do not think it is factory. Do you see any remnants of Brit proofs? Do I see traces of proofs in the cyl flutes?

 

[D'Angelo]

Thanks for the reply's guys, I don't know anything about this gun, I'm posting it for a friend,. This gun is actually for sale on my website. I think I will foreword this thread to him so he can answer your questions. thanks again!!

 

[bopester]

CAL 455 MKII GUN IS NEAR PERFECT.DON MUNDEL FROM S&W WENT OVER IT FOR ME. I OWN THE GUN.WAYNE IS A CLOSE FRIEND AND IS HELPING ME OUT WITH ITS POSSIBLE SALE.. BOPE

 

[bopester]

We need more pics.
A pic of the left gripstrap without the grips would be nice.
A good pic of the sideplate would be nice.
Then, just more pretty pics would be nice.

Some data is easy to supply-
It looks like all the guts are there, and they are very clean.
BTW- I see the screws in a pile. The FRONT screw in the sideplate is a fitted screw, and should always be replaced in the front hole. You have 2 outa 3 chances to be wrong, so segregate it when disassembling.

The engraving looks very nice, and has an English flavor to me. I do not think it is factory. Do you see any remnants of Brit proofs? Do I see traces of proofs in the cyl flutes?

I SENT SOME PICS TO WAYNE.HE WILL POST THEM I AM SHURE..NO BRITT PROOFS THAT I CVAN FIND?8.47 ON LEFT FRAME IN SIDE..MLG 2004 BOTTOM RIGHT INSIDE FRAME.90 TOP LEFT UPPER FRAME.NEW PICS.I HAVE NO CLUE WERE I GOT THEM??MUST HAVE BEEN IN HERE?IT IS MY GUN BEFORE THE ENGRAVING?HELP FINDING THESE PICS ORIGIN..T.Y. BOPE,

 

[bopester]

GRIPS ARE PENCIL NUMBERED TO THE GUN..T.Y.

 

[D'Angelo]

Some more pics guys!!

 

[D'Angelo]

And a few more Any help appreciated!!

 

[SDH]

If the MLG 2004 is engraved rather than stamped, it is quite probably the engraver's initials. If you post good pics of the engraving and the signature on Engraving Forum.com - The Internet's Largest and Fastest Growing Engraving Community - Largest Hand Engraving Community, 5,216 members there is a good possiblility of identifying the engraver.

 

[bopester]

WAYNE THANKS FOR UP-LOADING THE PICS, BOPE

 

[D'Angelo]

If the MLG 2004 is engraved rather than stamped, it is quite probably the engraver's initials. If you post good pics of the engraving and the signature on Engraving Forum.com - The Internet's Largest and Fastest Growing Engraving Community - Largest Hand Engraving Community, 5,216 members there is a good possiblility of identifying the engraver.

If the MLG 2004 is engraved??? I missed that, where is that in the pics?

 

[bopester]

I JUST FOUND THIS OUT!!MAYBE WRONG? BUT!!THE BARREL IS 6 1/2" ONLY 800 OF THESE WERE MADE FOR BRITISH EXPORT I THINK? BLUE BOOK 30TH EDITION PAGE 1678 SECOND LISTING DOWN?44 SPECIAL CONVERTED TO 455 MKII..THIS GUN IS GOING TO GIVE ME,WAYNE ULCERS. LOL

 

[bopester]

STEVE I WILL TRY TO GET IN THERE AND TAKE YOUR ADVICE.. THANKS BOPE

 

[S&W ucla]

Is "MLG 2004" for Michael Gouse an engraver in Montana I believe. It looks a little like some of his work. Some other members here have posted shots of his work. I remember 2 44spl, one had Skeeter Skeltons TT brand on it as a tribute.

 

[bopester]

THAT IS CORRECT.MICHAEL IS SENDING ME OUT A LETTER AS TO THE FACT HE DID THE REVOLVER..THANKS ALL.. BOPE

 

[glowe]

I JUST FOUND THIS OUT!!MAYBE WRONG? BUT!!THE BARREL IS 6 1/2" ONLY 800 OF THESE WERE MADE FOR BRITISH EXPORT I THINK? BLUE BOOK 30TH EDITION PAGE 1678 SECOND LISTING DOWN?44 SPECIAL CONVERTED TO 455 MKII..THIS GUN IS GOING TO GIVE ME,WAYNE ULCERS. LOL

6 1/2" barrel was standard on this English model. There was a 7 1/2 " barrel made, but only in the target model as reported in Supica's Third Edition. Your serial number is outside the 455 First Model, as 6000 were made, so must be a converted 44 Triple-lock.

Supica states that 44 Triple-locks were converted to 455 in serial number range of 12000 to 13000, but does not attribute them to English orders. He also states that many of those were converted to 45 Colt.

Lastly, Neal & Jinks book list 666 Triple-lock serial numbers that were converted to .455 for England. That sn range is from 1104 - 10,417. More info that will make those ulcers worse.

Factory letter from Roy Jinks should be your next venture. Certainly worth the $50 fee for such a valuable gun.