Safest long term powder for 357

[ArchAngelCD]

I use W296 gr8 the full power stuff and for middle to middle high loads I use either Longshot or HS-6.

 

[muddocktor]

Besides many of the powders I've seen mentioned here already, I also really like Accurate #9 for full power 357 and 44 Mag loads. Less flash from it as compared to H110. I've also been shooting a lot of Longshot and really like it in 357, 44 Mag and also it does well for me in 9MM. I used to shoot a lot of Blue Dot in my 357's but it doesn't meter as well as some of my newer choices such as Longshot.

 

[Bakebfr480]

I also prefer 2400. I use 21.5 for my deer load with 240 grain cast bullets, and 17.5 for the range.

I'm assuming this is your 44 mag load!

 

[Bakebfr480]

I shoot 13.5 grs of 2400 and Elmer's bullet in K frames and 14.5 grs in N frames and Ruger SA revolvers.

 

[elpac3]

I may sound like a broken record but - - - 2400 is my standard magnum powder. Hard to beat 2400, Unique and Bullseye for pretty much any pistol caliber.

 

[rwsmith]

More uneeded info....

Bullseye, Unique and 2400 served ALL of my needs for revolvers until powders got really scarce, then I branched out. When I got into semis I did get into a powder made for those. In a way it was fun because I bought whatever I could and got to try different things and found that I liked some of them.

 

[Ole Joe Clark]

What most of these guys say: 2400 and unique, used them since about 1975, last century.

Have a blessed day,

Leon

 

[WR Moore]

I've never had much use for 2400, but I've burned probably about a ton of Unique. Hard to beat in a great many calibers, but I did note some forcing cone issues with heavy loads in .44 magnum. OTOH, the forcing cone wasn't properly done in the first place and after cutting a proper cone, didn't note any further issues. There are, of course, better powders for stout loads, especially in .44.

I will admit I don't go for the max loads anymore, regardless of powder selection. I didn't notice any significant difference in terminal performance between a 125 gr JHP (.357) at 1250 f/s and 1450 f/s. The latter is obviously harder on the gun.

I do recall warnings about the use of Blue Dot in low temperatures possibly causing over pressure events. No memory beyond that as it was never a powder I personally used.

 

[cowboy4evr]

I use a lot of WSF for my " unique replacement " . 7.5 grs with a 158gr bullet is a winner for me . When I want more power but not full magnum I find 9.0 of HS-6 fills my need with same bullet , and I use a " Full " magnum primer with HS-6 loads .
I have used quite a bit of Accurate Arms 4100 , a bit slower burn rate than 2400 , faster than 110 . It was my go to powder for magnum loads when , for over 7 yrs I couldn't find one bottle of 2400 .
No complaining here , just saying that I filled a need with some different powders , they worked just fine and I have kept them in stock . Regards, Paul

 

[yeti]

My "go-to" for pistols (10mm. 44 mag. 357, etc.) Has been blue dot. In 357 only 158 grns, not smaller per their warnings.

Just shot some Lil Gun under some 160 grn cast powder coated, 17.3 grns. It's no slouch!! And VERY accurate in my TRR8. I've read about come erosion, so that turns me off.

With all these powders and their limitations.... is there a powder out there that is known to be safer? Not better by any means, but safer for the long run.

What I have in stock now is Red Dot, trail boss, H110, Blue Dot, 410, Longshot, IMR 4227, Tite Wad, Lil Gun and some old Scot 4100. I have no shortage of powders lol. Some of you guys must have been running the same reloads for decades and still have in spec guns. So I figured I'd ask.

Thank you in advance for the help!

I like 5.5gr Red Dot under 158gr coated or lubed lead with FED200 for an accurate, mellow paper punching load. I get a little over 1200fps from 6" barrel and it is quite pleasant to shoot a lot of.

For full house loads 2400 is king. I was forced into trying loads with AA#9 when I couldn't find a jug of 2400 and I also liked it.

I have used 14.0gr of W296 (same powder as H110) behind a 158gr jacketed with FED200 and heavy crimps.
You will get great velocity, plus the fireball is impressive/distracting. Flame cutting? Going to go out on a limb here and say...um probably more than others.

 

[gehlsurf]

Wow, well 2400 and Unique is engraved in my brain now, lol. Good to hear that longshot is good, too. Low flash is good, because this gun is my side arm when I go night hunting, and flash can turn off NV in a heart beat (first think I thought when I saw the Lil Gun flash, its humungous!!).

Thank you again guys, as I have all these powders, but not sure what to use primarily and what to use as backups. Most of these I got for 410 and when powder was low. I just bought 5 lbs of Trail Boss, needed a little for 308 subs, but also because it's hard to come by. 300 blk out guys gobble it up. I'm like that, see powder that's useable in many applications, buy it!! Lol

 

[thomasinaz]

Another Unique and 2400 guy here, with about 30 years using them in the 357. With 6 Gr Unique and 13.5 Gr 2400 under a 158 Gr LSWC, you pretty much have everything covered that a 357 Magnum will do. The Unique load is at around 1000 FPS and the 2400 is at about 1200. They changed 2400 a few years ago and 13 grains will probably give the same velocity as 13.5 used to. I haven't chronographed any 357s with the "new" 2400 yet, but it does produce higher velocities in other calibers. I shot a lot of the big Upstate NY tree squirrels with the Unique load, back in the 80s, with my 6" Security Six.

 

[Nevada Ed]

I am glad to hear that you have 5 lbs of Trail Boss.

It will work with the little 148gr wc target bullet but in my snub and 6" revolvers.....
it does well with both the RN and WC design bullets from minimum loads to almost compressed loads in 38 and 357 cases.

A great load for the while family, while making the 357 into a 38 Special !!

 

[fredj338]

Of course, 2 powders I don't have!! Lol. Unique and 2400 does seem to be the go-to for many reloaders. I never go full max load anyhow. Not sure why, guess because I don't see a point, lol.

Have you guys been reloading these for a while? Seems I just read that titegroup has some issues, too with burning hot. I mainly want a powder where a few thousand rounds later, I'm not saying, "damn, should be listened to those guys. Now I need a new barrel!"

Since my 1st 357mag some 42 years ago. I did go to H110/W296 for max loads but realized with a 44mag, I don't need max loads to do anything including hunt big game.

 

[Eddie Southgate]

Never needed anything but 2400 in .357 Magnum .

 

[cowboy4evr]

Well here we go again , those claiming 2400 was changed some time ago . I personally called the powder co. , talked to one of the exec's and asked that very question , " has 2400 been changed ? " .
His response was , " not to our knowledge " . Went on to explain that if it had been changed, it could no longer be called " 2400 " . It would of had to be called , " 2300 or 2500 " but not 2400 anymore . He also explained that the powder industry is pretty tightly controlled .
So believe what you want , I take the powder co's word , first and foremost . I don't care what some writer says . Regards, Paul

 

[hammer 1]

Several years ago, I wanted to simplify my powder stock, for both handgun, and rifle. For what I have, the handgun powders were easy, 2400, and power pistol are my two. The rifle powder, well, I'm still working on that. Trimming the herd, will have to happen first, and I'm not sure I want too

 

[Fishslayer]

Of course, 2 powders I don't have!! Lol. Unique and 2400 does seem to be the go-to for many reloaders. I never go full max load anyhow. Not sure why, guess because I don't see a point, lol.

Well, 2400 is my full house .357 powder, but I've been using BE86 for lower pressure target loads in .44 and .454. Burns really clean at lower pressures and meters fine in my Auto Disc. Burn rate is right about at Unique's.

 

[gehlsurf]

Well, I'm hear to report back.... still haven't gotten any 2400 or Unique, but IMR 4227 and H-110 has been floated, so tried those, since they were on hand. These were 160 grn cast RN Powder Coated bullets. Used 15.5 grn powder (on both powders, from my reloading this was about middle of road). Both ran well! While I don't have a chronograph, by the reload books should've been about the same FPS, 1,250 to 1,300 range (good enough for me). The H110 seems to have a heavier kick back and MUCH larger flame!! IMR 4227 was more tame feeling and no noticeable flame.

Still gonna get some 2400 or Unique for sure. But was happy about the IMR 4227, as my TRR8 is sometimes my back up hunting gun. I go hunting at night as well with it (obvious reasons, IR light/laser), and nothing sucks more than you NV killed by flame and having to turn off/on you PVS14 after a shot!!! Also, good for home defense as it wont blind you, God forbid you have to use it.

Thought I'd share my experience for folks who haven't tried IMR 4227 yet. Seems like a good one! But 2400 and Unique are next on the shelves, as sometimes you can't just have one powder choice, or even 2....

Again guys. Thanks for all the advice!!

 

[hdwhit]

gehlsurf wrote:
What I have in stock now is Red Dot, trail boss, H110, Blue Dot, 410, Longshot, IMR 4227,...

Of those, I would first explore IMR-4227. I have loaded it a lot (at one time I also had an M1 Carbine so it would work in both) and was very satisfied.