safety.... like them or not?
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My 9c, no safety; my Shield, safety (non-safety ones were not available, nor did I know non-safety ones were coming out); my M&P Bodyguard, safety. I don't care one way or the other, since I never use the safeties.
Revolvers don't have safeties.
Revolvers don't have safeties.
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Ok, who likes an external safety and who hates them and why? Sorry but it is cold here and I thought that this would warm things up a bit.
Thumb safety ok on 1911, not ok on Glock, M&P, and similar. Prefer 3rd Gen, Beretta, and similar with Walther P4 style decock only lever.
Johnmuratore
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My 9c and 40c have TS, my 45c does not.
Having a TS or not doesn't affect how I handle any of them.
Having a TS or not doesn't affect how I handle any of them.
kenv1950
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I prefer a safety...... Last year there was a LEO shot and killed with his own gun... A guy grabbed his gun and shot him... Maybe if it had a safety the grabber might not have know where it was and gave the cop that extra second needed
I like a safety/decocker . Leave the safety off and the gun in double action if that feature is available. If left on safe, the user should have muscle memory that will automatically thumb the safety off. I feel no one should carry unless they are totally familiar with the fire arm. At that point, safety on should not be a problem.
Practice, practice, practice
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Practice, practice, practice
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Safety on your carry gun?? Design flaw!
I prefer a Manuel safety on my carry gun. It just could save your life, if somebody not familiar with guns got a hold of your weapon. In my almost 40 years in Law Enforcement I either knew people from neighboring departments or read about people getting shot with their own guns. I had a M & P 9C that I carried but the safety was too loose. It would go on when you were shooting it, or come off when you were carrying same in a holster. I called S & W several times and was told that nothing could be done to make it stiffer, that was the way the gun was designed. I sold it and bought a Ruger, with a safety that works. I consider that a design flaw. I was not pleased with S & W's answer to that problem.
I prefer a Manuel safety on my carry gun. It just could save your life, if somebody not familiar with guns got a hold of your weapon. In my almost 40 years in Law Enforcement I either knew people from neighboring departments or read about people getting shot with their own guns. I had a M & P 9C that I carried but the safety was too loose. It would go on when you were shooting it, or come off when you were carrying same in a holster. I called S & W several times and was told that nothing could be done to make it stiffer, that was the way the gun was designed. I sold it and bought a Ruger, with a safety that works. I consider that a design flaw. I was not pleased with S & W's answer to that problem.
Ruger LC9s Pro (Hickok45)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2bBSHxk-Oc
A very light trigger, and no thumb safety.
(Mentioned around 8:25 in the video.)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2bBSHxk-Oc
A very light trigger, and no thumb safety.
(Mentioned around 8:25 in the video.)
I prefer a carry gun not to have a safety, I have carried guns with safety's and always train to sweep the safety off when drawing, it's second nature to thumb the safety off.
toasted
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I just acquired a Shield this past weekend and it has a safety lever in addition to the trigger safety. I am and probably will remain a wheelguner and have been carrying a S&W 686 SSR in a Maxpedition Jumbo S-Type Versipack as my GIT Bag. There are times, more formal in nature, when this bag is not practical or feasible thus I added the shield to my battery.
I have trained and carried various 1911's when issued one and accustomed to the safety and comfortable with it. The 1911 never said “I'm home” in my hand the way a Smith revolver does so I never bought one of my own.
I then handled a High Power carried by an Aussie I served with and It did say take me home. After I left the service and as soon as the HP was offered in 40S&W I brought one home. I never felt comfortable carrying it in a scabbard holster cocked and locked without the grip safety as a fail safe since on several occasions the ambi-safety was moved to the fire position by brushing against something. I added the SFS system to mine and carry it on safe since the motion I learned with the 1911 readies the HP for immediate use.
I have always chuckled to myself when folks seem appalled that none of my revolvers have a safety lever. I have always been comfortable with the “safety” of the S&W trigger actuated hammer block or Ruger's transfer bar.
Now we have the Glock and everyone else's version of striker fired pistols with a trigger controlled safety. The shield has both and I am comfortable either way.
Sorry if It seems I am on a soapbox or for composing this novella length post but I am known over in the revolver section for being wordy. THE PRIMARY & MOST IMPORTANT SAFETY LIES BETWEEN YOUR EARS!
I have trained and carried various 1911's when issued one and accustomed to the safety and comfortable with it. The 1911 never said “I'm home” in my hand the way a Smith revolver does so I never bought one of my own.
I then handled a High Power carried by an Aussie I served with and It did say take me home. After I left the service and as soon as the HP was offered in 40S&W I brought one home. I never felt comfortable carrying it in a scabbard holster cocked and locked without the grip safety as a fail safe since on several occasions the ambi-safety was moved to the fire position by brushing against something. I added the SFS system to mine and carry it on safe since the motion I learned with the 1911 readies the HP for immediate use.
I have always chuckled to myself when folks seem appalled that none of my revolvers have a safety lever. I have always been comfortable with the “safety” of the S&W trigger actuated hammer block or Ruger's transfer bar.
Now we have the Glock and everyone else's version of striker fired pistols with a trigger controlled safety. The shield has both and I am comfortable either way.
Sorry if It seems I am on a soapbox or for composing this novella length post but I am known over in the revolver section for being wordy. THE PRIMARY & MOST IMPORTANT SAFETY LIES BETWEEN YOUR EARS!
Just joined the forum and bought my 9 shield in mass Friday.I selected mine with the safety.The gun shop had both in stock.My reasoning was i kinda of like the look of the gun better with it.I like the option to be able to put a safety on.If i have it off what is the difference on a draw i have as much chance of winning the lottery as it mistakingly coming on.Carrying it loaded with safety on if someone was to struggle with me to get it.There would be much less chance of them fireing it.And last i look at it as a option and really a moot point as it can simply be left off my choice
flint66
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this would be my answer
this my answer ,because stuff happens!
this my answer ,because stuff happens!I have never had an issue with a safety lever. I have some guns with them and some without. You simply have to learn the guns. Your muscles will know what to do when the time comes if they are feeling something familiar. I am convinced that safety comes from training and practice. I'm sure we can all close out eyes, pick up a gun, and know in an instant what it is. If we can't identify it, we better pick it up more often.
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I bought a shield last week and chose the safety. I have children and I will not carry a round in the chamber when I am with them unless I have a safety. Sweeping the safety when drawing is pretty easy
Arik
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Only on guns designed around one. 1911/hipower yes everything else no
I like safeties.....
I like safeties that work well and aren't balky. I just happens that I have two DAO pistols because of their purpose.
I like safeties that work well and aren't balky. I just happens that I have two DAO pistols because of their purpose.
Well, when I got my shield, they didn't offer the no safety so mine has it. When I first started carrying it, I always kept it off, but when practicing, I'd put it on so I had to practice sweeping it off on draw. Now I usually leave it on because I sweep it off whether it's on or not, so why not?
If I had to choose, and they were the same price, I'd probably still pick the safety, but for no particular reason. I was comfortable, after reading several threads on here about it, carrying without the safety on.
If I had to choose, and they were the same price, I'd probably still pick the safety, but for no particular reason. I was comfortable, after reading several threads on here about it, carrying without the safety on.
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