Scratched the Glock itch and moved on

[Zoner]

About 8 months ago I got the Glock itch. I never owned or shot one but started thinking about it and before long was at my LGS putting down cash. I bought a BNIB Glock 19 Gen 3.No mods...shot it bone stock and the gun did very well. Put about 600 rds thru it and it was 100% reliable and easy to make meaningful hits on a sillouette target every round a mortal wound.Sights I can see and a decent trigger what's not to like? In a word ergonomics. The slight forward angle of the grip and the girth of the grip just didn't work for me. So the Glock got sold. Yesterday I got a email flyer from the gun store telling me about a 2 day sale(today and tomorrow) with a M+P 2.0 Compact 9MM w/4" barrel on sale for $529. I also got both my tax return checks in the mail yesterday so you can guess what happened next. I was waiting when the store opened and this morning and now I have a M+P 2.0 Compact in Kalifornia DROS prison haha. The ergonomics of the M+P are great and I haven't had an opportunity to try the different backstraps to fine tune that. Grip texture is good no Talons or any of that needed. I snapped it once and the trigger is the best trigger I've felt on a striker fired gun.... no trigger mods needed here. It's gonna be a long ten day wait......Mike

 

[dajogejr]

Who gets a tax refund in the mail anymore…direct deposit? Hellooo..
LOL.
Good call. The new 2.0 triggers are way better than the hinge triggers of old.
For me, the M&P trigger, even the 2.0 performance center, are petty good.
I still replace them, but they are better than generations past.

In being frank, they’re mid to upper mid pack when it comes to striker fired triggers. But they’re a HECK of a lot better than stock Glock.

I had Glocks in the past. I had one recently. They’re just so…boring.
Work every time, zero issues, tons of aftermarket, cheap mags.. go bang and eat everything. Just meh.

For what they are, they’re great. And for what they’ve done for the striker fired, polymer handgun market…innovators of yesteryear.

I like the grip angle of the M&P WAAYY more, it’s more 1911/2011 like.

With wear and use, the trigger will only get better. Congrats!

 

[Beju]

The Gen 1-3 Glock grip design criteria:
-Fitting a blocky magazine designed around ~1980 polymer tech.
-The trigger reach of the average Austrian soldier.
-A hump on the back to reduce flex when squeezed hard, because again, ~1980 polymer technology.

I do like the Gen 5s, however. The shorter trigger reach (adopted in the Gen 4/Gen 3 SF large frames) and elimination of the finger grooves works better with my smedium hands.

 

[blackdeuce]

I went through my gun list today and I counted twelve different brands of semi-auto handguns. No Glocks. I've never owned one. My son has a couple and they're fine. Just not something that I want to buy.

I have a M&P Shield in 45acp. I like the way it feels in my hand.

 

[cgt4570]

Funny I just sold a very early NIB, unfired since factory 2nd Gen 17 at a local consignment auction this morning. I'm a Smith and Colt guy. It just didn't do anything for me. Never felt right in the hand. I gained about $200 on it.

 

[38 Specialist]

I'm in love with S&W revolvers and their steel automatics. That's what I collect and shoot for fun. I have great pride in owning them.

My preferred striker-fieed guns are Glocks. I agree that they are very plain and lack any flair whatsoever. But I've come to admire them for how perfectly they fulfill their mission. As a piece of engineering and manufacturing designed to be reliable, simple to operate, effective, durable, and inexpensive, they are about as close to perfection as you can get.

Their form follows their function. To me, the effort s of other companies to add visual style seem silly. I like the sheer plainness and utilitarian nature of the Glock.

As for ergonomics, I thought they felt weird at first. But now they feel normal to me. I have no complaints.

 

[STCM(SW)]

I have never had a plastic gun.
To me a 1911 & a HP high power is a real pistol.
I'm a old man that likes steel guns.
Just think what worked years ago is still good today.

 

[Saudade]

Got plenty of poly, Sig, S&W, Walther. Got some metal too, Ruger, RIA, Berretta.

No Glocks. Not a hater, just don't "fit" me. Have shot plenty. Every time I think I should have at least one, I rent one at the range and reaffirm my apathy towards them.

 

[Rick H.]

For the most part Glocks fill a role few others can attain. They almost always work, even if something is broken, they are ultra easy to repair if needed and there is no begging the factory for parts. Glocks are cheap, no doubt about that fact and they work. I carried a Glock as a duty pistol and it never let me down. I didn't have to baby it nor pay anymore attention to it than I did any other piece of my duty gear. When I became a Glock armorer for my department I quickly learned just how easy the gun came apart and back together, much faster than any other handgun I worked on. Everything on a Glock is purpose built and makes complete sense. Put the hammers, screw drivers and slave pins away, you don't need them to work on a Glock.

While many don't like the way a Glock feels in their hand there are Glock models that do feel quite good. The perfect example of this is the Glock 48. I have two because I like them so much. One has had some work done to it and the other is bone stock for concealed carry. The G-48 feels about as close to a 1911 Commander for me as a Glock will ever feel. With Shield magazines my G-48's they hold 15+1 rounds in them and they are very comfortable to carry. If something should happen and my G-48 had to go to an evidence locker it would be no heartbreaking loss. Not so with any of my other pistols.

Where people get confused with a Glock is that they want or expect X-ring accuracy from them which in most cases isn't going to happen. That has never been the purpose of a Glock. The Glock is a combat driven firearm and always has been. When you finally realize a Glock is not a bullseye gun and is designed for a much different purpose you discover the true beauty in them. My constant companion these days is my G-48 with Shield mags or in summer months even my G-42, both with DOT optics. Do I shoot them as well as my CZ TSO or Smith Model 52? Nope, not by a long shot, but I know my Glocks will perform well if needed at realistic distances and I won't go broke if I have to give one up to the evidence locker. And best yet is if it breaks, which is rare to never, I can fix it myself in minutes and any needed parts are a phone call away. I'll stay with my Glocks for serious carry.

Rick H

 

[CH4]

I still have a G26 and G29. Not a Glock fanboy, but I appreciate their reliability, utility and cheap, ubiquitous magazines.

 

[Beju]

Where people get confused with a Glock is that they want or expect X-ring accuracy from them which in most cases isn't going to happen. That has never been the purpose of a Glock. The Glock is a combat driven firearm and always has been. When you finally realize a Glock is not a bullseye gun and is designed for a much different purpose you discover the true beauty in them.

Even that has changed with the introduction of the Gen 5 models. The mechanical accuracy standard changed from 8" groups to 4" groups at 50 yards. While the Gen 3/4 technically met the accuracy minimum for the FBI RFP that resulted in the 17M/19M, there were more points awarded for better accuracy, and Glock was worried about losing that contract.

 

[sjmjax]

Not generally a Glock fan.

I did however buy a used Gen 3 17L quite some time ago.
Original owner had fitted it with a KKM Precision conventionally rifled barrel.
I added dual high Viz - Night Sights and a 3 1/2 lb trigger.
I’m actually quite amazed at how accurate and utterly reliable it is in my hands. Despite the fact it still feels like a slippery 2x4.

It actually matched and often out performs my 952-1 that cost 4x as much.

Next improvement will be the extended take down lever. With my arthritic fingers, the original is almost impossible to operate.

 

[Kanewpadle]

For the most part Glocks fill a role few others can attain. They almost always work, even if something is broken, they are ultra easy to repair if needed and there is no begging the factory for parts. Glocks are cheap, no doubt about that fact and they work. I carried a Glock as a duty pistol and it never let me down. I didn't have to baby it nor pay anymore attention to it than I did any other piece of my duty gear. When I became a Glock armorer for my department I quickly learned just how easy the gun came apart and back together, much faster than any other handgun I worked on. Everything on a Glock is purpose built and makes complete sense. Put the hammers, screw drivers and slave pins away, you don't need them to work on a Glock.

While many don't like the way a Glock feels in their hand there are Glock models that do feel quite good. The perfect example of this is the Glock 48. I have two because I like them so much. One has had some work done to it and the other is bone stock for concealed carry. The G-48 feels about as close to a 1911 Commander for me as a Glock will ever feel. With Shield magazines my G-48's they hold 15+1 rounds in them and they are very comfortable to carry. If something should happen and my G-48 had to go to an evidence locker it would be no heartbreaking loss. Not so with any of my other pistols.

Where people get confused with a Glock is that they want or expect X-ring accuracy from them which in most cases isn't going to happen. That has never been the purpose of a Glock. The Glock is a combat driven firearm and always has been. When you finally realize a Glock is not a bullseye gun and is designed for a much different purpose you discover the true beauty in them. My constant companion these days is my G-48 with Shield mags or in summer months even my G-42, both with DOT optics. Do I shoot them as well as my CZ TSO or Smith Model 52? Nope, not by a long shot, but I know my Glocks will perform well if needed at realistic distances and I won't go broke if I have to give one up to the evidence locker. And best yet is if it breaks, which is rare to never, I can fix it myself in minutes and any needed parts are a phone call away. I'll stay with my Glocks for serious carry.

Rick H

Well said. I’ve owned and carried more guns that I care to count. Spent a lot of money trying to find the perfect carry gun.

Tried Glock as well as the M&P. After quite a few years I came back around to Glock.

I over came the grip angle with lots of practice. Modified the grip on my G19 to make it more ergonomic. New sights and so many magazines that I lost count.

I currently own a 19, 43 and 48. When I need something, it’s easily found.

I like the M&P as well as many other guns. But at this point, I’m too heavily invested in Glock.

 

[stansdds]

"Glock itch", sounds like something a doctor needs to treat.
Ruger's RXM might be a solution to the Glock grip issue.

 

[Beju]

The RXM is supposedly ~20 degrees, in-between a 1911/M&P grip angle (~18 degrees) and a Glock grip angle (~22 degrees).

 

[flagaman1950]

Myself, I do like Glocks, have several and carry a 42 often. I like S&W revolvers even more. I carry a model 37 in the colder months, when it is easier to conceal. The grip angle on the Glocks is not an issue for me as the grip angle on a revolver does does not mirror my 1911's either. I just try to handle, dry fire, and shoot often enough to stay familiar. Just saying.
Best.

 

[Lior]

One thing I like to do a couple of times a year is a cross country run with a gun and then shooting it in a match. Did so this year with Glock 19 and 45, and did pretty well! They aren't quite as fun to shoot as an M&P but get the job done and have a slightly more carryable profile (SmartCarry holster under my running shorts).

 

[hardluk1]

I scratched my glock ich but that was 40 years ago and sold that thang very quickly . Shot a couple more over the years including a daughters gen 5 g19 and felt the same as 40 years ago . Grip angle and flat slab side grips do not work for me .

 

[dajogejr]

I rented either a 43 or 48 before buying a shield plus comp.
I don’t remember which, but it was the slim line and longer grip.. I just can’t do the baby grip on any of them with xxl hands.

It was just ok.. and for me, the blocky grip angle just doesn’t suit me.
Nothing against them, they are the quintessential self defense pistol.
Just not my particular cup O tea.

 

[stansdds]

The RXM is supposedly ~20 degrees, in-between a 1911/M&P grip angle (~18 degrees) and a Glock grip angle (~22 degrees).

And it has a straight back strap, not humped like a Glock.