SD9mm trigger pull
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Go to Welcome to Apex Tactical Specialties, Inc. and look at their 2 offerings for the sd9: spring kit & new trigger. These together turn the sd into an excellent shooter. Some folks are OK with the factory springs/trigger but a number of others, including myself, find this a much needed upgrade.
retired_diver
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I agree with NevadaBob. If you shoot it alot (1000 rounds?) the trigger pull will smooth out and possibly lighten up a tad (1-1.5lb at most). I have a sw9F the pre-runner of your gun. With my trigger scale the pull avg. over 10lbs and was gritty. With the apex spring kit and their Poly trigger, the takeup pull was reduced approx. 30%, the overtravel was reduced to "nothing" and it now breaks at 6.2lb. I am very pleased with it, these guns will never have a 1911 single action sub-3lb trigger.
but you can make them much better IMHO.
but you can make them much better IMHO.
Ofc.JL
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tjmids, If I might? As an LE armorer(30+ years, back when we all carried S&W blue steel K frames. I was there when S&W debued the Sigma.), I too really like the SD. It is the evolution of what originally was a good design, the Sigma. Lotsa reason that weapon got screwed up and developed a bad reputation, but that's another story.
Anyway, I discovered something w/ my SD 9 recently. I had been to the range, and running behind on an appointment, slapdashed cleaned my SD when I got home. Upon rearming my self w/ my SD the next day, I noticed that the trigger on my SD was now pretty stiff, and had a choppy pull-thru. ***?? I stripped it and looked. Nothing wrong that I could see, and I just was puzzeled over what may have happened. After checking thru everything I knew of, I discovered this: in my haste to clean the weapon, gun lube had migrated into the striker channel, due to my sloppiness. Some(most!) plastics do not like petrochemical lubricants. The plastic has a strange, if ever so slight reaction to the lube. It tends to become kinda "tacky", if you will. I yanked the stricker out of the pistol and cleaned all the lube off of it, and the channel guide inside, as well. Put it back together and Bingo!, the trigger was now back to it's smooth self, with no stacking or stiffness. Lesson learned!(My Dumb *ss! Jeez, I know better!)
So, end result is when Glock, S&W, Springfield tell us not to lube the striker ***'y and channel, they ain't kidding. Plays havoc with the trigger pull(or can).
With that success and re-learned lesson, I thought of this: as an experiment(and please do not try this unless you know what you are doing!), I pulled my striker out of my SD, and with a hobby paint brush, ever so slightly put just a touch of silicon grease in the striker guide ways. And I mean so slight, a person cannot see it. Reassembled the weapon, and tried the trigger(Checked and rechecked and rechecked for empty, always. Pointed in safe backstop direction!). The result was very good, as the trigger was now butter smooth, and easy to pull thru.
Now, as an Armorer, I cannot condone ANYONE doing this. Remember S&W has stated "No lube in striker channel!", and that is the protocol we must follow. Period. I did clean the silicon grease out of my striker channel right after doing so. The main reason I did use the silicon grease was to prove the petrochemical/ plastic reaction problem to myself, moreso that anything else. Hell, the plastic parts in the striker are self lubricating anyway, so why bother. And remember, any "wet" lubrication is also a "dirt magnet" which will cause problems all their own.
Anyway, all this just to tell you to make sure your striker ***'y is clean and dry, that SD will smooth up and really get nice in just a few rounds.
Merry Christmas, all. To you and yours.
Ofc.JL
Anyway, I discovered something w/ my SD 9 recently. I had been to the range, and running behind on an appointment, slapdashed cleaned my SD when I got home. Upon rearming my self w/ my SD the next day, I noticed that the trigger on my SD was now pretty stiff, and had a choppy pull-thru. ***?? I stripped it and looked. Nothing wrong that I could see, and I just was puzzeled over what may have happened. After checking thru everything I knew of, I discovered this: in my haste to clean the weapon, gun lube had migrated into the striker channel, due to my sloppiness. Some(most!) plastics do not like petrochemical lubricants. The plastic has a strange, if ever so slight reaction to the lube. It tends to become kinda "tacky", if you will. I yanked the stricker out of the pistol and cleaned all the lube off of it, and the channel guide inside, as well. Put it back together and Bingo!, the trigger was now back to it's smooth self, with no stacking or stiffness. Lesson learned!(My Dumb *ss! Jeez, I know better!)
So, end result is when Glock, S&W, Springfield tell us not to lube the striker ***'y and channel, they ain't kidding. Plays havoc with the trigger pull(or can).
With that success and re-learned lesson, I thought of this: as an experiment(and please do not try this unless you know what you are doing!), I pulled my striker out of my SD, and with a hobby paint brush, ever so slightly put just a touch of silicon grease in the striker guide ways. And I mean so slight, a person cannot see it. Reassembled the weapon, and tried the trigger(Checked and rechecked and rechecked for empty, always. Pointed in safe backstop direction!). The result was very good, as the trigger was now butter smooth, and easy to pull thru.
Now, as an Armorer, I cannot condone ANYONE doing this. Remember S&W has stated "No lube in striker channel!", and that is the protocol we must follow. Period. I did clean the silicon grease out of my striker channel right after doing so. The main reason I did use the silicon grease was to prove the petrochemical/ plastic reaction problem to myself, moreso that anything else. Hell, the plastic parts in the striker are self lubricating anyway, so why bother. And remember, any "wet" lubrication is also a "dirt magnet" which will cause problems all their own.
Anyway, all this just to tell you to make sure your striker ***'y is clean and dry, that SD will smooth up and really get nice in just a few rounds.
Merry Christmas, all. To you and yours.
Ofc.JL
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I was just like you a few months ago, I had bought my SD9VE and was very excited and happy with it. When I took it to the range I was always low and left and the trigger felt gritty and the pull was hard. I kept shooting it and the results were about the same and I began contemplating the apex springs and/or trigger to smooth it out. I am not a gunsmith and was concerned about doing this work myself. While I was thinking it over I continued to shoot it and dry fire and pretty soon it smoothed out alot. I have about 1,000 rounds through it now and many dry fire reps and am happy with the trigger and the results that I now get at the range. Shoot the gun and work with it and you will get better results.
I was just like you a few months ago, I had bought my SD9VE and was very excited and happy with it. When I took it to the range I was always low and left and the trigger felt gritty and the pull was hard. I kept shooting it and the results were about the same and I began contemplating the apex springs and/or trigger to smooth it out. I am not a gunsmith and was concerned about doing this work myself. While I was thinking it over I continued to shoot it and dry fire and pretty soon it smoothed out alot. I have about 1,000 rounds through it now and many dry fire reps and am happy with the trigger and the results that I now get at the range. Shoot the gun and work with it and you will get better results.
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I tried to measure the trigger on my SD9, but it broke my scale.
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Messed with some newer sd's at the gun shop last night. The triggers only felt like 6 lbs (about the same as my m&p) yet smoother. The only issue was the revolver like reset. the trigger had to go all the way forward. That effects rapid fire but I cant see accuracy as an issue.
Actually, I've had a number of revolvers in my time, as well as DA/SA semis, on which the DA pull is more than 8 lbs. While I don't have a trigger pull gauge, just by feel I can tell that the DA pull on these guns is heavier than on the SD9VE. (I don't own any revolvers now, but I do remember...and SIG's specs on their DA/SA guns state 10 lbs is the DA pull weight.)
The trigger pull isn't as light as a stock M&P, Ruger SR, or a Glock...it can be made that way if you choose; personally, while I'm contemplating getting the Apex spring kit, I actually feel a bit more comfortable with a gun that has a heavier trigger pull and no external safeties. I love the 1911 trigger, but it also has a thumb and grip safety.
Yes, I know the adage: keep your booger hook off the bang switch, and I do practice that safety rule, but on a 1911 I feel secure in knowing I have two safeties to overcome before that light trigger can engage. This is just me...YMMV.
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