SD9VE accuracy issues

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Okay I know it’s the shooter, not the gun. Unless it’s not.
I’ve had my SD9VE for little under a year, it’s mostly a great gun for the money, but there are a few issues that bug me.
The good:
*Reliability - 1200 rnds. of mixed ammo with no failures.
*Price - $303 after tax.
The bad:
*QC problems with the S&W magazines. The slide won’t lock when empty.
*The accuracy is unacceptable.
At first I thought it was me. I’ve had four other shooters try it, with similar results. It’s several inches off from 30 feet. Even from a rest. A bore sight tool shows it 4 inches left, and 2 inches low. My friend bought the same gun, the same day, from the same store. His gun shoots just fine, although his slide doesn’t lock back when empty either.
 
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Adjust your grip. You're probably riding the slide lock.

Accuracy... I believe the factory sights are setup for POA at 7 yards. Anything further you'll have to adjust for elevation. If you're using a ransom rest and getting windage issues then I'd say contact support.

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Sold my SD9VE to pay med bills may get another , pistol is challenge with light muzzle and trigger. I'm no marksman but seem to do better with 124gr FMJ. The only problem was slide locked back with last round in mag a couple of times , cleaned the mag with alcohol a and worked ok. Similar threads about slide not locking back listed bottom of page , maybe lube in mag or weak ammo.
 
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Test for slide lock: Take empty gun, with slide closed. Insert empty magazine in gun. Pull slide back as far as it will go. If slide locks back, the slide lock is fine. If it will NOT lock back pulling it hard as far as it will go, call S&W customer service for a return tag.

Guns will good slide lock can fail to lock back when shooting due to wimp ammo, wimp grip, riding the slide lock, or riding the slide. Assuming the gun is clean and properly lubed.
 
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They can be tough to shoot well - for everyone. I’d say if you and other experienced shooters have satisfied yourselves that the gun is not shooting to point of aim and that it cannot be corrected by drifting the sight a bit, you might as well call S&W and see what they say. In my own case, I’m an old revolver and 1911 shooter. I’ll admit to took me quite a while to adapt to “modern triggers,” which I still find a considerable annoyance. :o
 
My SD9VE is more accurate than I am, and what hampers me some is the long trigger pull. Even with that though I can manage good palm-sized center mass shot groups out to 10 yards, hits to point of aim, and at 15 yards I can keep it in the general vicinity of the bull...
 
The SD's do have a long trigger pull, and it takes work to get it under control. But we're skipping a step here with the OP's problem to talk about mastering the SD trigger... although I'll come back to that in a moment.

The real question is, is the OP getting a scattered group of hits because the gun is not accurate, or because his technique is not giving him practical accuracy, that is, repeatable success in firing the gun well.

Is the OP's SD accurate? Does it group closely and shoot virtually the same place all the time, preferably where aimed, but always hitting the same place in relation to the sight picture? If so, the barrel, lock-up, timing, ammo, etc., are all doing their job to be accurate... but the sights are not aiming where they are supposed to.

In which case, if he is not hitting where he is aiming, but the groups are small, the gun is accurate but not sighted properly. Left/right can be solved by drifting the sights; up/down is harder to fix but can be solved by adding a higher or lower sight post, or, if hitting too low, filing off some of the front sight post.

But, if the OP's pistol is being fired the same way every time, but the grouping is scattered, then the problem is probably the gun. That's what sounds like might be the case here, especially if other folks with the OP are having the same problem with the OP's SD9VE. This is why people use Ransom Rests (which mechanically align the gun and press the trigger) or, if a Ransom Rest is not available, they use a sandbag or other aiming assistance to lessen human variables.

If the problem is the gun, that is, it shoots differently each time even though aimed and triggered consistently, the most likely problem is the lockup of the barrel with the breech face. Sometimes this can be seen visually... The second most likely problem would be a barrel that is flawed in some way - bulged, bent, pitted, or suffering damaged rifling, a nicked crown, a peened barrel hood, etc. The solution is to buy a new barrel (Numrich's is listing new SD9VE barrels for under $75, and there are currently several used SD9VE barrels on Ebay for around $70).

But one test that might be worth conducting before buying a new barrel is to try different types and weights of ammo. Some barrels (and pistol actions in general) work better with different types of ammo. Most people shoot 115 grain 9mm, but 124 grain is widely available and 147 grain can be found, too. Each works the gun a little differently and OPs SD-9VE might favor one over another. Brands can vary too.

An underlying problem with the SD-9 family in working through this is that durn trigger, which makes it harder to control your shooting precisely and the same way each time with this pistol -- compared, say, to an expensive 1911, Sig, CZ-75, etc. So while one is trying to figure out if the problem is the inherent accuracy of the pistol or the ammo or some other problem, it can be hard to isolate the key variables.
 
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It’s several inches off from 30 feet. Even from a rest. A bore sight tool shows it 4 inches left, and 2 inches low. .

Bore sight tools can be all over...

Is that where you group, 4" left and 2" low?

If so, make a small pencil mark across rear sight and slide (to
show where it is "now"). Take a punch and hammer, and drift
(tap) rear sight to the right. Try just moving it about the
thickness of a dime, using your witness mark to keep track.

For the 2" low at ten yards--what sight picture are you using on your target?
 
Right hand shooter????
If true, without excellent trigger control you will shoot left and low of target!!
Don't ask how I know!! LOL
 
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