Sd9ve for bear protection

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I've been talking about this in the revolver forum about 38 special and I figured I'd ask about 9mm. I really don't have the money for a hiking gun so I'm trying to stay with what I have. What do you think about sd9ve loaded with buffalo bore ? Would I have to change the spring for a 9mm+p load?

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Get serious. Used Ruger Super Blackhawk .44 Magnums are common in my local gun stores for $425 to $450. If you need bear protection dump the 9mm and buy bear protection.

On the other hand, we are lucky to even get a glimpse of our local black bears. They are hunted so they are terrified of humans. If your local black bears have lost their fear of humans you can almost eliminate the likelihood of them being a problem by not leaving out garbage, pet and bird food or anything else for them to eat.

If you live where there are carnivores that might actually hunt and eat humans wait for another member to offer advise. I doubt any will recommend sticking with 9 mm.
 
Guy killed a brown bear worth 9mm not to long ago, so let's get serious...I don't need a 500 for black bear and I don't have money for another gun

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If you decide to use a 9, use fmj ammo, not any expanding ammo.

Lots of bone to get through to reach bear vitals.

Ballistic gell isn't a useful comparison to heavy boned animals.
 
The Alaskan professional guide who killed a large bear with a 9 mm killed it in extremely unusual circumstances. It was standing over his two clients who, thinking it was their best option, had laid down. The bear was standing still and paying no attention to the guide who fired from 15 feet behind the bear's shoulder. A bear charging at 25 mph is a lot harder to drop.

Can't your 9 mm be sold for at least $300?
 
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a_finelli said:
Guy killed a brown bear worth 9mm not to long ago, so let's get serious...I don't need a 500 for black bear and I don't have money for another gun
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With a perfectly placed shot, you could probably kill a bear with a .22, but that doesn't justify making it "Plan A".
And, if all you have is your 9mm, and you can't or won't get something else, then what are we talking about here? You're using what you have, and hoping for the best, end of discussion.
And, as recommended above, I'd go with the penetration of a good FMJ over HP's.
BTW, here's an interesting story of an Alaskan guide that killed a grizzly with a single-stack S&W 9mm, coincidentally, using Buffalo Bore ammo ! (so you may be onto something,LOL!:D )
9MM +P OUTDOORSMAN Pistol and Handgun Bullets Pistol & Handgun Ammunition
(scroll down a little ways after clicking the link)
 
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The Alaskan professional guide who killed a large bear with a 9 mm killed it in extremely unusual circumstances. It was standing over his two clients who, thinking it was their best option, had laid down. The bear was standing still and paying no attention the the guide who fired from 15 feet behind the bear's shoulder. A bear charging at 25 mph is a lot harder to drop.

Can't your 9 mm be sold for at least $300?
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Yeah it can but I don't want to sell it, I like it for range shooting, I was hoping I could possibly load it got for hiking

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:rolleyes:I thought you only had a 642:rolleyes:now with a 9mm I still say the right tool for the right job:eek:I have a SW9VE and I'd want 17 round of Buffalo bore WELL placed:rolleyes:
 
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:rolleyes:I thought you only had a 642:rolleyes:now with a 9mm I still say the right tool for the right job:eek:I have a SW9VE and I'd want 17 round of Buffalo bore WELL placed:rolleyes:
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I have a gp100 357 with a 4 inch barrel but it's heavy and on a long hike it takes a toll. I carry it during hunting season and my shoulders hurt from carrying it in a shoulder holster for 10 hrs

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weight issues

Hmmm. 22.4 oz automatic with 17 rounds of ammo or a 36 ounce GP100 with six rounds. I wonder if the difference is noticeable. But, carry whatever you want and hope for no encounter, which is the norm...
 
a_finelli said:
I have a gp100 357 with a 4 inch barrel but it's heavy and on a long hike it takes a toll. I carry it during hunting season and my shoulders hurt from carrying it in a shoulder holster for 10 hrs

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Come on now:confused: for the weight difference IF your strong enough to hike 10 hours that weight difference should not bother you...Use the .357... I carry a model 66 4" no problems at all:rolleyes:
 
It's concealability, if I'm hunting I don't really need to worry about it, but outside of hunting season in ny you have to keep the gun concealed without printing and I'm stuck with what I have right now, believe me I'll be picking up a small 357 once I can afford it but for now I'm stuck with what I have

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Between the 9mm and 38spl I would also lean towards the 9 with BB flat nosed bullets.
I was carrying a 22lr revolver when I tangled with three feral dogs. It was the only handgun I had at the time and I had it stuffed with CCI Stingers. It worked well in the moment. After that though, I got to thinking what if I were to run into something bigger. I moved up to a 45acp then later a 44mag.
My advice ... carry what you have but make it as mean as you can with the proper ammo. Plan for the future if you think something bigger may be needed.
 
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