Seems Chili’s and Sonic won't be getting

Sonic's chili is like grease and some beans.
Chili's doesn't even have chili.

I miss White Castle :(
 
Ah....The good old days...

I remember back a number of years at a place in Cordes Junction, North of Phoenix, half way to Flagstaff, there was a cafe/bar that had a sign that said all persons had to check their guns at the bar...There was a peg board on the wall for you to hang up your hardware...

The place is gone now, torn down for a gas station.

Been a while since I been there. Sorry to hear it's gone. Had good burgers. I remember seeing two cowboys (on horses) ride up and hang their guns up.
 
It's ironic because the Kileen Luby's shooting was the watershed event of the Concealed Carry movement.
I think restaurants have some ground to stand on. If your family is in a family style restaurant, and a party of 4, that look somewhat like Aryan Brotherhood types, carrying ARs or AKs or for that matter M&Ps, but, by definition, non-threatening, come in and sit down in the booth next to you, are you going to enjoy your meal? If you're in an authentic Italian restaurant, and a guy comes in with a cello case, and gets seated in a corner near you, are you staying for the canoli?
 
Sorry to hear about your friend; sadly, the attitude in most of California is "guns=bad". San Diego was shook up by the event (I'm from there), but I dont rememer anyone sharing any pro 2A feelings when it happened. CCW is so rare and hard to get there the mind set doesn't even seem to consider it as an optoin for legal self defense.
 
Sorry to hear about your friend; sadly, the attitude in most of California is "guns=bad". San Diego was shook up by the event (I'm from there), but I dont rememer anyone sharing any pro 2A feelings when it happened. CCW is so rare and hard to get there the mind set doesn't even seem to consider it as an optoin for legal self defense.

Believe me; when I get my stuff sorted out and can find the right gig, I am headed to America, and I won't miss a lot of things which are very absurdly backwards here.

If I recall correctly, that was about 1982 or so; it's been a real long time. And I think it was about the end of the feel good hippy movement, because they were pretty much en masse burning out, selling out, and bailing out. Vietnam was totally behind us, and Van Halen had arrived to save us from disco and Captain& Tenille. We had a real leader fresh in the White House, and people were more interested in getting back to work, and making up for lost ground from the last decade. I don't recall much their being a lot of concerns for personal safety, mainly because there was a LOT more overall maturity in the adult population and hard earned wisdom, as well as work ethic. It simply wasn't a time to really worry a lot about a person going nuts in a McDonalds, of all places.
As a kid, and a target shooter, junior hunter and Boy Scout, I had firearms experience. And I could not in my WILDEST DREAMS imagine a person going off, any place- let alone a McDonalds.:( (Boy, did I get a lesson in reality.)

As to today, and the CCW laws? I'm of the belief that while I try to follow the spirit of the law, I also follow the spirit of the constitution- THE LAW above all else. And, the law of nature is much, much more at the front of my mind now that I am a father, a provider, family mechanic and human ATM. I realize that there is a lot more for me to be responsible for. And that kinda trumps some concerns about things like if I forgot to take off my protection before I went into the store. I mean, it's perfectly legal to have it on me in the house, and in the yard. And Meh; I am older, so I tend to forget sometimes that it's even there.

That's my example, and I am sticking to it. And IF I had forgotten to remove it, and you met up with me? You'd never know I had forgotten to take it off before going to the store, and you'd have to do something awful bad to even make me consider checking to see if I had remembered to take it off before going out to the store. I'd be very justified in checking to see if I had made a mistake and accidentally brought it with me. And that's how I might accidentally be able to protect myself or others, by accident......

But I'm certainly not going to walk into a store like a Home Depot or restaurant for ANY reason carrying a rifle, unless my car was gone and I somehow wound up with the rifle, and no place to put it. You see how this scenario is not real likely to ever happen?? I sure as heck would not feel comfortable walking in like that. I try to be a good neighbor, and that's just not how good neighbors greet each other on the lumber aisle, or in the buffet line for dinner.:)
 
Something we are all forgetting (and I am NOT excusing this behavior) is the local atmosphere. When in Anchorage, I was amazed at first at the number of open carry I saw (pistols and rifles).
 
I don't know that I can really blame Sonic for prohibiting open carry in their restaurants. From what I read in the news people were showing up with rifles strapped to their backs.

How would you react if you were sitting in a restaurant and someone walked in with a rifle?

I might ask him to put his rifle on the floor or I'd shoot him!!!!!!!!!!!
JIM...........
 
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