Shield Plus mags to watch out for.

[HEADKNOCKER]

You had me wanting to go check the new magazine I bought last week for the Plus
You are correct that the finish is shinier than the older ones from about a year ago & the ridge is different in the manufacture
On mine they both drop free the exact same except the newer one has more spring tension being it has never been loaded
I will put up a photo as I took one while down in the dungeon

The one on the Left is the NEW Magazine & the other two factory supplied ones from 06/21/21
Gary/Hk

 

[beefstews]

Called S&W and the rep wants me to send in the pistol and the mags. I will probably shoot it first and see if the behavior changes after leaving the mags loaded for a week. I noticed the follower damaged/scratched after a few dry fires.

 

[Tomac]

I own 16 of the 13rd mags for my 3 Shield Plus', all have the shiny finish, all function perfectly and drop free w/o difficulty.

 

[beefstews]

After fully loading the 2 problematic mags and letting them sit for a few days, the mags now freely drop when either loaded or unloaded. One of the mags, though, does not lock in place into the pistol when the mag is fully loaded - regardless how much force I use. There is no way I will be able to get 13+1 with that one.
Yes, I marked all the mags, so I identify them.

 

[S&W Fan]

At some point regardless of platform there will be problem mags. I have 2 Wilson 1911 mags that won't allow the slides to lock on multiple pistols-they are regulated to range use only.

The first M&P 1.0 I bought when they first came out had one that wouldn't go to capacity no matter what. Again strictly for range use and I told the buyer such when I sold the pistol.

 

[beefstews]

At some point regardless of platform there will be problem mags. I have 2 Wilson 1911 mags that won't allow the slides to lock on multiple pistols-they are regulated to range use only.

The first M&P 1.0 I bought when they first came out had one that wouldn't go to capacity no matter what. Again strictly for range use and I told the buyer such when I sold the pistol.

Been there...At the range, about 4 rounds into a brand new P365 15 round mag, the base plate popped off and dropped ammo all over the floor. I re-installed everything and same result. I even had the range master verify I did not assemble the mag incorrectly.

I ended up calling Sig and without hesitation, they shipped me a replacement. I asked if they wanted the bad mag, and the rep just told me to toss it!

 

[Buford57]

Bought two MecGar mags for a Witness .38 Super. (BTW I consider MecGar the gold standard) One came from the factory with the follower installed backwards. I didn't notice until it was nearly full and resistance increased. Obviously wouldn't feed. Had to disassemble the mag to remove the rounds and reassemble correctly.

If there are humans involved, Murphy supervises.

 

[donut1953]

Just brought home the Shield Plus bug out combo...the 3 shiny 13 rounders do not drop free. The less shiny ones, 10 and 13 rounders, drop free nicely. Pretty disappointing.

I had the exact same problem as you. I bought the bug out deal with the 3 extra mags. All mags except for one 13 round magazine would lock the slide back and eject properly. The one 13 rounder would not lock the slide back or eject from the gun. This was all done without any ammo or firing the gun. Just by looking at the defected mag you could tell the follower was sitting higher than all the other mags. Called S&W customer service and they sent out 4 new magazine springs and that fixed the issue with the one bad mag.

 

[donut1953]

So here I am a month later from this thread starting. I picked up a new 13rd mag earlier today. It also has a shiny blue finish compared to the older mags.

It does drop free both loaded and unloaded though I won't get a chance to shoot the pistol with this mag until tomorrow. I'll report back then.

New mag on the left, old on the right-might be hard to tell but the new definitely has a bright shiny finish as opposed to the older mag.

The follower is sitting much higher on the mag to the left. I had the exact same problem the slide would not lock back nor would the mag drop free. I called S&W and told them the problem and they sent out 4 new mag springs for the 13 rounders. I replaced the spring in the mag that was not working and that fixed the problem. I now have 3 extra mag springs. You can also see the small change in the original mag and the shiny mag. If you look at the area where you can see the hole in the follower the slope of the metal section from the corner to where it curves up is just a little longer in the shiny mag compared to the flat black mag. I bought the bug out bag that came with 3 extra mags and all 3 were the shiny mags compare to the flat black 13 rounder and 10 rounder that came in the S&W box.

 

[xfarfuldog]

I own a 2.0 Shield and a Shield Plus. I gave my sister a 1.0 when she could no longer pull the trigger on her loaned 66. I bought the Shield Plus last year. I purchased 2 13 round mags at Cabelas when they became available. They all three are the less shiny finish. All function and drop free perfectly. Unfortunately one can only hold 12 rounds. I use an upula but am unable to get the 13th round in. I have tried unloading and reloading that particular mag without success. ???

A friend wants to purchase the 2.0. I'm thinking of replacing it with another Plus. I want to get the bugout package with the 5 mags. My question is will I get 4 13 and 1 10 or all 10s?

 

[scruffy]

I will run the bad one back this afternoon. I mainly was wondering if anyone else has seen any of these gloss blued ones and if they did had the same issues. It would be interesting to know if this is a common thing or not.

Jayman

I have 4 gloss black ones that were part of the"bugout bundle". All work fine. I was actually impressed with the finish compared with Sigs on the edge of rust mags.

 

[beefstews]

I own a 2.0 Shield and a Shield Plus. I gave my sister a 1.0 when she could no longer pull the trigger on her loaned 66. I bought the Shield Plus last year. I purchased 2 13 round mags at Cabelas when they became available. They all three are the less shiny finish. All function and drop free perfectly. Unfortunately one can only hold 12 rounds. I use an upula but am unable to get the 13th round in. I have tried unloading and reloading that particular mag without success. ???

A friend wants to purchase the 2.0. I'm thinking of replacing it with another Plus. I want to get the bugout package with the 5 mags. My question is will I get 4 13 and 1 10 or all 10s?

I got 1 of the 10 rounders and 4 of the 13 rounders. You have to give it a lot of force to get the 13 rounders full.

 

[Paul in Nevada]

After owning a lot of Sigs I would suggest you look at where the mag is made. With new Sigs, they usually give you Mec-Gar mags made in Italy, while the packaged ones are usually Check Mate made in the US. The Italian mags have a higher quality feel to them but they both work the same in my experience. I wouldn't be surprised if S&W has a similar approach. If they say Philippines they are ACT and definitely cheaper made.

 

[33jayman]

Thanks for the replies. I am glad to hear that Smith & Wesson is interested in fixing the problem. I have been on the look out for some 13 rounders but there just isn't that many out there on the store shelves. I could buy online I suppose.

Jay

 

[Tomac]

Thanks for the replies. I am glad to hear that Smith & Wesson is interested in fixing the problem. I have been on the look out for some 13 rounders but there just isn't that many out there on the store shelves. I could buy online I suppose.

Jay

Just a moment...

 

[rosewood]

I know some may disagree, but even though companies market guns as +1 on the rounds, I don't think the design is really to allow for +1. Gun mags are designed to be loaded full then inserted in a gun with the slide open. Not inserted in a gun with the slide shut. When the mag is full, typically the top round is difficult to push down any further. Since that last round is pushed down by the slide when it is closed, it can become a problem.

Rosewood

 

[LVSteve]

I know some may disagree, but even though companies market guns as +1 on the rounds, I don't think the design is really to allow for +1. Gun mags are designed to be loaded full then inserted in a gun with the slide open. Not inserted in a gun with the slide shut. When the mag is full, typically the top round is difficult to push down any further. Since that last round is pushed down by the slide when it is closed, it can become a problem.

Rosewood

I think the Remington R51 in 9mm is the perfect example. Rumor control says that taking 1/8" off the follower legs largely fixes any +1 issues. For sure, a fully loaded R51 magazine has a minimal amount of "slop" when when you press on the top round.

 

[m&p2.0fdethumbsafety]

I know some may disagree, but even though companies market guns as +1 on the rounds, I don't think the design is really to allow for +1. Gun mags are designed to be loaded full then inserted in a gun with the slide open. Not inserted in a gun with the slide shut. When the mag is full, typically the top round is difficult to push down any further. Since that last round is pushed down by the slide when it is closed, it can become a problem.

Rosewood

i would think there's been evolution in gun engineering and design to make +1 feasible? gun handling has changed quite a bit.