SHIELD - Printing

I did try the deep conceal and that did help. Maybe adding more cant also will help. I am wondering if even less cant might work.

It might take a little moving around... there are lots of different body types and sizes.


Just don't forget you have to be able to draw the thing - so wardrobe may be the key. Just going up a size in t shirt may do the trick and give you a nice simple draw stroke.
 
I went from this:

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To this:

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100% improvement. (For me at least) Honestly forget its even there.
And the retention is a plus for me. No issues at all.

What holster is that 2nd one. I've been looking for one similar to it. But I'm afraid of side to side movement of the weapon while the body is in different positions. I've always been a fan of 2 point holsters, such as the 1st one u have in the pics. But I'm curious about the 2nd pic and whether or not u get any aide to side movement through the day. Keeping in mind I wear my weapon 12+ hours a day 5 days a week. And on weekends as much as possible.
 
Don't know what belt you are using, but the proper belt can often make a big difference, esp in holding gun butt close to your body.
 
I carry in the 3 to 3:30 position with zero printing, as others have said, dress around your carry weapon also try changing the tilt angle.
 
Change the way you dress.

Possibly change your holster.

I am not familiar with your holster, but I have no problem concealing a full-size M&P in a Desantis Intruder. I wear button-down shirts with a pattern (no solid colors) and a straight hang (like the Royal Robbins and Woolrich Tactical Series) and Polo shirts (solids and stripes) one size too big.

I can conceal certain pistols in belt holsters with these common modes of dress, too...

When you carry a gun you must modify your wardrobe - but the modification doesn't have to be extreme...the two keys are straight hang pattern and one-size-too-big...

Your size matters, too...I am 6'2" and weigh 230#...I can conceal guns smaller people can't...you gotta tinker to get where you want to be...
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The one thing you didn't mentioned, which is too often overlooked, is your belt.

What kind of belt are you using? Flimsy, squishy belts from Kmart or JCP will NOT serve you well.

The selection of a belt is just as important as the selection of a holster!.

I wear a Wilderness Explorer. If you require a dressier belt, check out Galco and numerous other holster makers. Whatever you choose must be rigid to keep even IWB holsters from shifting and moving away from you when you move. Belt selection is just as important for IWB as OWB.

The best concealment rig in the world won't live up to all it's hype unless secured with a good belt...
 
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Without pictures, but with your wife saying that you can see something, but can't tell what it is... I think you are stressing over it a bit too much. The past couple of days I have carried my Sig P290 in the cheap paddle holster that came with the gun, with just a t-shirt over it. You can see that something is there, but you can't tell that it is a gun. That meets the legal definition of concealed in my state.

And as others have said, you need a belt designed for carrying the weight of a gun. A good belt makes all the difference.
 
U also have to take into consideration the people who are questioning the printing. For instance ur friends and spouses whom know u carry. They already know it's there and it's just something that are looking for.

To a stranger, they aren't looking at a certain area of ur body as does ur spouse of friends. A stranger isn't going to point it out nearly as easy. I'm not saying it doesn't happen. I'm just saying that most things are more noticeable when u already know it's there.

If I switched my weapon to weak side carry. I'd bet 90% of my friends who know I carry. Will tell me that my weapon is still on my strong side. And that's because they already know what side I carry on.
 
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I went from this:

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To this:

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100% improvement. (For me at least) Honestly forget its even there.
And the retention is a plus for me. No issues at all.


What holster is that 2nd one. I've been looking for one similar to it. But I'm afraid of side to side movement of the weapon while the body is in different positions. I've always been a fan of 2 point holsters, such as the 1st one u have in the pics. But I'm curious about the 2nd pic and whether or not u get any aide to side movement through the day. Keeping in mind I wear my weapon 12+ hours a day 5 days a week. And on weekends as much as possible.

N82 tactical
https://www.n82tactical.com/index.php
 
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You're asking what kind of belt I wear. Well it is a handmade heavy leather which is quite stiff and supportive. Also have a nylon one that is some kind of tactical something like tactical 5 or such that is also very stiff. I do understand the good belt thing. I wore the holster today with a little more cant and my son who also carries said that it was working very well for me. He also said at times he could see something, but did not think anyone who did not carry would have a clue. I was wearing a polo that was a little bit clingy. So I believe it is working for me. Please understand that I am not totally paranoid about carrying. I just want less people to know that I am carrying. Iowa does have open carry, but not many people do that. I haven't seen that yet around here. At this time I believe it would in some cases stir up a hornets nest. My opinion is that I don't want them to know. Just mho.
 
I totally understand your frustration Scrapmaster with alien, but I do feel I received a good holster. It is the black leather iwb I suppose the standard. It is comfortable. I figured it would come from Idaho, but it came from Arkansas. It does have the alien logo.

Again, thanks for all your support on this topic!

Hey I also feel I got a good holster- I never had issue with the product. I got the holster for my G23 and tried it out for 7 days or so and realized that while it was a big improvement to me, I really needed an EDC gun for CCW. Especially in the Florida summer. My G23/Alien Gear might be PERFECT for the fall and long pants/long shirts etc. and layers... we will see! - mine also came from Arkansas and I didn't like it. Alien Gear Holsters merged w/ Old Faithful Holsters a few weeks into my waiting period. As I understand it, they either had less waiting list or more capacity ,( or both) and so they took over production on a large portion of Alien Gear's outstanding orders. I sort of think it's another ridiculous example of them, I didn't order anything from Old Faithful and I feel like I might have got a "copy" of the real thing done by the other factory's people... but what are you gonna do right?

As far as the actual holster, I guess you and I got the same thing (other than mine being for the Glock ) - I ordered "the original" (as the 2.0 hadn't come out yet) Cloak Tuck IWB with the paid-upgrade to Black leather, and black metal clips (I didn't actually pay for them, I think they just gave them to me for free, so thanks? lol.) ... As I said, I like it a lot. I'd love one for the Shield but I am not going to wait. I'm going to go with the King Tuk by Galco or MAYBE a Crossbreed second if I spot one.

Good luck and lets try to compare notes in the future.
 
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