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I grew up on gun, and motorcycle magazines. But then there were no video games, or home computers in our cave.
Shooting magazines removed from Kroger
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the ringo kid
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The media I'm afraid-decides who the they's and the moving targets are.
mg357
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Boo hiss Boo!!! Hiss!!! its not right.
But have they removed all the Shooting CLIPS from the store??
I find it very distasteful to see magazines likes Sports Illustrated Swimsuit Edition with those almost naked women on the front!
Thank goodness they seal them and put a barrier in front of them!!
What would the Children think??!!!
I find it very distasteful to see magazines likes Sports Illustrated Swimsuit Edition with those almost naked women on the front!
Thank goodness they seal them and put a barrier in front of them!!
What would the Children think??!!!
daniel lawecki
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Went to Kroger today and your store had Shooting Times and other gun magazines some with black rifles on the cover.
Spleenless Dave
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Yup, high capacity covers.
Abbynormal
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Haven't bought a gun rag in years.
No, I'm pretty sure we while on the defensive use "they" more than the media. Unfortunately, I don't think we really know who "they" are . . .
jimbo728
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Today I heard a report that YouTube is banning firearms videos.
I guess Im no longer using that media resource.
Jim
I guess Im no longer using that media resource.
Jim
YT is banning videos with links to buy guns, which is perhaps more insidious than simply banning gun videos. They don't want to piss off the Free Information crowd, but as a result, they're directly attacking the livelihoods of the content creators that, you know, made YouTube filthy rich.
They're also banning videos with instructions on how to "assemble firearms", which as far as I can tell, doesn't mean anything. No more YouTube videos of how to install a 1911 thumb safety? Are field strip videos prohibited?
Now, the rest of this is a long-winded post, so you can tune out here.
The question is whether YouTube is truly a private business, or whether their popularity makes them more akin to a public utility. If it's the former, then they should be free to exclude whoever and whatever they want, and let the free market sort it all out. If it's the latter, then they should be required to serve all customers equally.
Although some people think that private businesses don't have any rights, but that's a different matter. Ethically, anyways, I have a real problem with attacking people's ability to monetize work they've already done.
I happen to think that they should be considered a public utility, because they have a monopoly, but for different reasons than you might think.
Let's say that I tried to start a gun-friendly video streaming service--GunTube, or whatever--to compete with YouTube for the firearms video market. Excellent! I can do that. I can buy all the hardware I need, I can buy some fat pipes to stream all that stuff on, and I can sign up advertisers.
But competition with YouTube is impossible. I will never be successful, because YouTube has a monopoly. They don't control the viewers, the advertisers, the technology, or the means of delivery. Instead, YouTube has monopolized the resource: knowledge itself.
In order to compete with YouTube, I would have to have a useful amount of content. And there's simply no way I could amass enough content to compete with what's already on YT. It's controlled the market for years. There are probably millions of gun videos already hosted. I couldn't possibly attract enough content creators to make new videos to compete with that, even if I had millions of dollars to fund years of losing money. And since YT videos are the intellectual property of the individual creators, I'd have to market to thousands, maybe even hundreds of thousands of people to get them to re-upload.
Look at what happened when ImageShack decided to switch to pay-to-play: a calculable percentage of the information on the internet was neutered. Millions of informational posts became worthless overnight.
People think that net neutrality is a big deal. Here, we've got unassailable businesses with the ability to censor our access to knowledge, even our culture itself. We look down on the informational autocracies of China and North Korea, but we're not much better off ourselves.
jimbo728
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I was thinking that a GunTube would be a great idea.
Back to YT.
Last night I tried to watch a Hickok45 vid comparing the M1 rifle to the M1A.
It came up but did not stream video at all. Just audio.
Soon we will feel what persecution is like. Starts with boycotts and censorship. Is the worse yet to come? We should not dismiss this possibility and hope this just all goes away. That would be a big mistake.
Jim
Back to YT.
Last night I tried to watch a Hickok45 vid comparing the M1 rifle to the M1A.
It came up but did not stream video at all. Just audio.
Soon we will feel what persecution is like. Starts with boycotts and censorship. Is the worse yet to come? We should not dismiss this possibility and hope this just all goes away. That would be a big mistake.
Jim
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