Shotgun stock question
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If you’re sure it didn’t receive any sort of impact the only thing I could imagine would be a concealed defect in the wood. Was it subjected to extreme changes in temperature/humidity or continuous vibrations? Either of those things might have caused the defect to open up.
Does it have a thru-bolt in the stock to attach it to the recv'r?,,,and if it does, was the gun worked on needing the stock removed or tightened up at one time?
It looks just like when a long screwdriver is placed down the hole in the butt stock of a thru-bolt attached stock to unscrew it or even tighten it up a bit.
The problem comes when the blade of the screwdriver doesn't end up in the slot in the head of the bolt down in there.
But instead, it glances off to the side and lays betw the bolt head and the side of the hole,, up against the wood.
It feels like the blade is securely in the slot down in there,,but when given a hefty couple of twists to turn if free or tighten, the flat blade leverages against the side of the bolt head and cracks out the side of the stock. The wood is not very thick there with a 3/4"d or better hole down there.
Well that's my first impression anyway.
Might not be the cause but maybe it'll save someone else from having a bad day.
It looks just like when a long screwdriver is placed down the hole in the butt stock of a thru-bolt attached stock to unscrew it or even tighten it up a bit.
The problem comes when the blade of the screwdriver doesn't end up in the slot in the head of the bolt down in there.
But instead, it glances off to the side and lays betw the bolt head and the side of the hole,, up against the wood.
It feels like the blade is securely in the slot down in there,,but when given a hefty couple of twists to turn if free or tighten, the flat blade leverages against the side of the bolt head and cracks out the side of the stock. The wood is not very thick there with a 3/4"d or better hole down there.
Well that's my first impression anyway.
Might not be the cause but maybe it'll save someone else from having a bad day.
WTN1271
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You could take the butt plate off and see what it looks like on the inside. Maybe the hole drilled for the attaching to the receiver is off center and the wood is "thinner" on that side.
nachogrande
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GOT KIDS?
JK.
Humidity/temp changes, long term storage in the truck??? 
JK.
Humidity/temp changes, long term storage in the truck??? 
kwselke
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Stored in a vehicle in Texas, my guess would be the heat.
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Maddog 521
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Y'all have solved my problem. This gun has been in my truck most of the time during the heat of the summer and the cold of the winter. It also has a couple of marks on the inside of the bored hole in the stock. What's odd is it showed up now after we got back from Jackson Wyoming where the night time temps were 4 below zero while we were there. I've never seen this happen before so it's a first for me.
I'm going to try and repair it while I look for another stock. I do have another question also-----Is the stock on my Winchester Defender the same as the Winchester 1200 and1300 stock? I have searched for that answer on the WWW to no avail. I assume it is but I am not 100% certain. Thanks again
I'm going to try and repair it while I look for another stock. I do have another question also-----Is the stock on my Winchester Defender the same as the Winchester 1200 and1300 stock? I have searched for that answer on the WWW to no avail. I assume it is but I am not 100% certain. Thanks again
The first impression is that stock has recieved some form of force. I have seen guns that were stored in attics here in Ohio that end up with similar damage. 100 + in the summer and -0 in the winter. I don't know how long of a time this takes. I've seen some stored for years that looked like brooms and were punky like a form of dry rot. I guess there is a point that all moisture leaves the wood and will cause cracking. I don't understand the snake like gouge on the opposite side from splitting in stock bolt area.
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Maddog 521
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I don't understand the snake like gouge on the opposite side from splitting in stock bolt area.[/QUOTE]
I don't understand this either. There is some gouge type marks inside though. Maybe just extreme pressure out ward?????????????????
I don't understand this either. There is some gouge type marks inside though. Maybe just extreme pressure out ward?????????????????
"What would cause this to happen? It hasn't been dropped or had any thing heavy on top of it."
I'm wrong so often I should quit posting; but I think it's been whacked by something.
I'm wrong so often I should quit posting; but I think it's been whacked by something.
Ivan the Butcher
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I'm convinced that it was climate change. (not global, just seasonal!)
Looks like it is time for a synthetic stock set!
Ivan
Looks like it is time for a synthetic stock set!
Ivan
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I have repaired cracked Shotgun stocks in the past and have had very good success. You need to use Titebond waterproof glue (green label) and use course thread screws to do the repair. You can countersink the screw heads (use small head screws or grind the heads smaller) and after countersinking, you can use the saw dust from drilling the holes mixed with glue to cover the screws. Don't be afraid to use as many screws as you have to in order to keep it from cracking again and I coat the threads of the screws with the glue for extra insurance! You can also drill out a hole through the cracked portion after gluing together and drive a glue soaked wooden dowel in to bind it together. If you are patient and take your time, the screw holes will hardly be noticeable - but of course that depends on your skills at wood working. You can also use stains to blend in the repaired area.
Of course the other option is to replace the stock. You did not mention what kind of SG this is so I don't know how available or expensive a new one would be. Of course it's unlikely that a replacement would match the fore-end either (you could replace both), so you really have nothing to loose at taking a shot at repairing it. If you hate wood working or are not good at it, a skilled wood worker, GS or someone handy should be able to help you out.
Of course the other option is to replace the stock. You did not mention what kind of SG this is so I don't know how available or expensive a new one would be. Of course it's unlikely that a replacement would match the fore-end either (you could replace both), so you really have nothing to loose at taking a shot at repairing it. If you hate wood working or are not good at it, a skilled wood worker, GS or someone handy should be able to help you out.
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The shotgun is a Winchester Defender-1300. I'm going to try to repair it and look for a replacement. The damage is just a very shallow splinter about 4 inches long. I think the wood in beech wood so it is much softer than walnut. There are replacements on the WWW but I just wonder what condition they are in. Thanks
gwpercle
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Wood has a natural grain, it will absorb moisture and what you are seeing is a part of the wood grain warping and lifting.JK.
It's just one of the not so great aspects of hardwood... Walnut is a better stock wood but any wood must be cured and cut correctly into a stock .
Injecting slow cure epoxy into the crack and securing it back together would probably fix it.
In the old days , with simple wood glue we would drive two or three nails to help the glue hold and refinish the stock.
Real bad wrist cracks got glued then wrapped in copper wire.
Gary
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