Should very large handgun magazines be heavily regulated

[bushmaster1313]

Do not know the specifics. A few questions. How many cartridges were left on the 50 round magazine at the conclusion of this tradgedy. Did the 50 round magazine itself contribute ot this??? In other words was the ploiceman killed with round 50??? QUite frankly, absent anything to the contrary, I think the 50 round magazine issue is just something for the anti gunners to jump on.

Although I have 40 years of safe and responsible firearm ownership under my belt, even I find something unusually dangerous about a 40-50 round handgun magazine. If I feel this way, just imagine what the anti-2A crowd feels about these devices.

 

[biku324]

Thank you.

 

[Ugly Hombre]

No- the "suspect" that murdered the Officers should get the electric chair.

The thugs weapon was already outlawed in NYC

 

[margethatcher]

ban?

With 3D printers, its a moot point.

 

[ladder13]

Don't think I've ever heard an ant-gunner say "that was a great shoot taking out that criminal".
As such, I could care less what they think.

 

[sipowicz]

"Last night a shot from an illegal gun took an NYPDs officer's life". Let that stupid quote from New York's governor sink in.

 

[biku324]

Let's get behind drone-supported, remotely fired firearms!

Last week, a video was uploaded to YouTube showing a civilian grade drone equipped with a semi-automatic handgun that was being fired remotely somewhere in the US. We know that guns are legal (to a degree). We know that drones are legal (depending on the sort). But are gun-toting drones legal?

 

[Old_Cop]

Keep in mind that NYC is home to arguably the strictest gun laws in the country.

 

[duane_wade]

Guideline sentencing range for simple felon-in-possession is 10 to 78 months in prison.[ B] If possessing a loaded very large capacity handgun magazine on the street or in the passenger compartment of a car was a mandatory 10 year sentence, my guess is that the criminal element would take notice.[/B]



The real point of my post is that although I believe the Second Amendment protects the right of ordinary people to carry firearms outside the home for self defense, I feel there is something about a 50 (or even a 40) round handgun magazine that makes it different.

Yeah..Yeah... like they take notice of any law now....

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[s&wchad]

What's the magic number

Excellent point. There is no magic number…

Every concession is one step closer to the end of our 2A rights.

 

[handejector]

Should very large handgun magazines be heavily regulated

NO.

What's the magic number

Excellent point. There is no magic number…

Every concession is one step closer to the end of our 2A rights.

EXACTLY.


Is a 50 rd mag inherently evil?

Of course not. Intent falls, as ALWAYS, on the person holding the gun.
Is a 50 rd mag more dangerous than four 15 rd mags?
In an evil person's hand, it may give him a slight advantage because he won't have to change mags, but he will only save seconds involved in mag changes. I've never used one, but the extra weight and bulkiness has to slow pointability and maneuverability to some degree.


When we make concessions like this, we are setting ourselves up for failure.
I do not want a 40 or 50 round drum, but I do not want them regulated or outlawed.
If you allow a 40 rd mag to be outlawed, the next time a criminal uses a 15 rd mag, they will want to outlaw them.
If they succeed, a 10 rd mag will be used by a criminal and they will outlaw them.
Then, we will count down through 8 rd, and then 7rd, and then 6 rd and so own.
Eventually, you'll be left with a double barrel deringer, till a criminal uses one of them and we are relegated to single shots.
And then.....

Give an inch, expect to lose a mile.

Dropping a mag and inserting another does not take long.
I know this guy is world class, but an average person can learn to change a mag in 2-3 seconds, so outlawing the larger mags will not prevent criminals from wreaking their havoc.

Jump to 4:24 for the fancy work---

[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UevJjcPTkrs[/ame]

 

[Execpro]

NO !!! Don't blame the magazine.
From my understanding and hearing his criminal record, he should be in prison, not out on the street.
The blame goes to poor prosecution and other issues with our criminal justice system. If he had been charged under Federal gun laws, he could have gotten 20 years in prison for previous gun violations and what about the three strikes and your out laws.
The problem is in the criminal justice laws and politicians too afraid to make the laws and judges that are afraid to enforce the ones we have.
The politicians just make guns the easy scape goat. JMO
I will get off my soap box now.

 

[crstrode]

That the OP is defending this lunacy further is cause for alarm.

 

[bushmaster1313]

Well
I hear and respect the argument about not giving an inch
Nice thing about this Forum
We are able to engage in civil debate about important subjects

 

[Jessie]

I see a camels nose again.
And the hundreds, yes hundreds of( I'll correct that to approx159 ) LEOs killed in the last year were killed with what capacity magazines in the guns?
I hate to say it this way but what difference does it make anyways? This time with this mag crosses the line huh?
Educate me as to why.
I'm tired of hearing the term 'gun violence'. For crying out loud it's the person holding the gun thats violent!

 

[BLACKHAWKNJ]

No, it's a good example of what one time Communist boss of Hungary Matyas Rakosi called "salami slicing tactics"-just a little bit at a time.

 

[Waldo]

I find it hard to believe that any gun owner in the United States could support such a law, much less propose it. I have never found anyone who could answer this question" Where has a gun law been passed, that made the anti-gunners say, " That's enough, we don't need anymore gun laws"
I am going to stop right here, I do not think I could say any more without getting in trouble.

 

[ladder13]

………I have never found anyone who could answer this question" Where has a gun law been passed, that made the anti-gunners say, " That's enough, we don't need anymore gun laws"
……….

I can answer that…….. NEVER.

 

[DUSTYDOGDAN]

They take my 50 round mag first and then they take your 6 shooter next!!!

 

[robvious]

if passing a law stops crime we could just make murder against the law.. easy peasy... oh wait.. that didn't work either... so, no to the proposed limit.