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Should very large handgun magazines be heavily regulated
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Exactly. People who come up with ideas like this probably think that armed robbers would not J walk or park illegally while robbing a bank.
THINK about it if you are prepared to commit MURDER every other crime you commit in the commission of the murder is a distant second. You really think a felon is going to be all that worried about them tacking 10 years onto a life sentence???
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That, right there sums up our current quagmire. Having spent the last 15 years teaching High School seniors, I can tell you that ain't changing anytime soon, no matter who holds power. Joe
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As a Vietnam Veteran was happy when we got 30 round mags for our M-16's over there. Here at home I read and Comprehend the 2nd Amendment. The right to keep and Bear Arms applies to firearms, ammo and whatever goes with them, Period. Infringement is what any " gun control" is. Period.
Long running here, long running.
IMO, the OP does not speak to the crime committed; it cites those heinous, multiple acts of violence as an inflammatory and extreme ad hoc justification of the argument. The OP argues that "very large capacity" (whatever that means) magazines be subject to "strict regulation" (whatever that means) because those magazines somehow inherently facilitate criminal behavior.
This argument is posed as well-intended. We know where that road leads.
No.
This argument is posed as well-intended. We know where that road leads.
No.
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. Wrong!? What do you mean by "wrong"? "Wrong" because you don't like them? What do you mean?
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Lets say I have an AR or AK long gun and a drum, and I have an AR or AK pistol or an AR that takes Glock mages and a Glock pistol, will one be legal for the long gun but illegal for the pistol or just illegal, period? How about if I tape two 30 rounders together?
The argument will be and has been made that ALL hi-cap mags are too dangerous for regular folks to own.
Aren't you retired LE? If so, there always seems to be exemptions for LE, even retired LE, so a mag ban, likely, wouldn't affect you, just the rest of us.
If there's a law, these laws should apply to EVERYBODY, no exceptions. Even if you're LE and off duty, no possession exemption - leave them mags in the arms room. Fair is fair, no?
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No…as long as it's legal, no….never let the camel get its nose under the tent..next thing you know, you will be sleeping with a camel, fleas and all!
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Crud ! Finger bump erased my almost completed post , and I'm about to nap before middle of night shift . I'll retype tomorrow .
Every bad act comes down to one thing and one thing only, personal responsibility. Bad guys will always get what they want and giving the government more leverage on your freedoms can only have a bad outcome.
I never worked for an agency that had a 'arms room.'Ματθιας;141370674 said:
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That's not the point.
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I know this will not likely be real popular here, but it seems those in influential positions who are pushing for more gun control are the same ones pushing for more COVID control of our lives. Just saying, it's about control.
I just read the shooter died—mentally ill, multiple felonies.
There are a lot people on here and out there THAT DON"T CARE WHAT GETS BANNED............As long its not the toys(guns) they like.
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Well, I'm confused - what is the point?
In the four agencies in which I've worked, magazines for semi-auto pistols were limited to the weapon's manufacturer's magazines, and none of those were more than 18 rounds. For long guns, the largest imagazines were 30 rounds for AR-15/M4 rifles; our Tact Team had MP5s in the 80s/90s that came with 32 round mags. Once weapons, mags, and ammo are issued, they are the officer's responsibility to keep available and secured.
What specifically is the lawful purpose for LE or non-LE for 40-round, 50-round, or other magazines? Warrant service? Home defenser? Self-defense? Thugs and thuglets love them because they see them on video media and can shoot lots of rounds without having any need to know how to reload or to fire accurately.
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Apparently so. I am stunned to find folks with such a mindset here.
Well put.
Want to get a good idea where the current crop of miscreants can be traced back to?
Read Sen Daniel Patrick Monyihan's treatise about the affects on society that the new welfare initatves that were new in 1965 would be. And he was right. Single moms with no father figure, one of the main roots or today's problem IMHO
Couple that with progressive DA's and mayors lack of law enforcement and arrests treated as a catch and release, an acceptance of violence as the norm, and a few generations raised with violent video games, violent movies, and violent music.
No amount of gun control or mag bans are going to reverse 55+ years of moral corrosion.
Those who beat their swords into plowshares will be forced to plow for those who didn't.
I'll keep all my so-called "high capacity" mags and "assault rifles".
Thank you very much!
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" What specifically is the lawful purpose for LE or non-LE for 40-round, 50-round, or other magazine?"
I have purchased a good number of firearms over the years. ALL were purchased with lawful purposes. Hunting, sport shooting, self defense. While I have no desire to own drum magazines I don't care if someone else does, if used for lawful purposes. I have used a few such drums and experienced malfunctions with the examples I used. I don't find them to be reliable. They also are bulky and heavy.
I have purchased a good number of firearms over the years. ALL were purchased with lawful purposes. Hunting, sport shooting, self defense. While I have no desire to own drum magazines I don't care if someone else does, if used for lawful purposes. I have used a few such drums and experienced malfunctions with the examples I used. I don't find them to be reliable. They also are bulky and heavy.
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As long as I'm not committing a crime, it's no one's business.
I (a law abiding citizen) cannot, should not, will not be compelled by anyone or any government entity to explain or justify ownership or use of any lawfully procured magazine, ammo can, broadsword, lance, hammer, scissors, bat, or (God Forbid!) a set of golf clubs.
My rights only stop at the tip of your nose, and take a guess where yours stop.
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