Show us your King Sighted Guns
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Remington Model 25
Not a Smith obviously, but certainly a King. Here is the seldom seen King Triple Bead front sight and King Quad rear sight factory supplied on a Remington Model 25 in .32-20. The front sight has a small and medium size brass bead and a medium size ivory bead. The elevator on the rear sight doubles as a slotted screwdriver for changing the leaf position. The evelator is also graduated from 100 to 400+ yds. The leaf has 4 different types of notches.
Sorry, I don't own any King conversion Smiths.
Not a Smith obviously, but certainly a King. Here is the seldom seen King Triple Bead front sight and King Quad rear sight factory supplied on a Remington Model 25 in .32-20. The front sight has a small and medium size brass bead and a medium size ivory bead. The elevator on the rear sight doubles as a slotted screwdriver for changing the leaf position. The evelator is also graduated from 100 to 400+ yds. The leaf has 4 different types of notches.
Sorry, I don't own any King conversion Smiths.
Pontiaker
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These grips look like Sandersons though its hard to tel from the one upside down pic, Lol! Awesome revolver.
Pontiaker
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Yeah Dad, my Triple Lock .44 6 1/2 inch target has the grooves on the rear sight too. I think we checked and it also numbers to the gun. My cut up second model .455 had the rear sight with grooves too.
Matt
Coldshooter
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Do the reflectors actually help or do they cause glare on the front sight?
They actually help IMO. The refelctor illuminates the front bead at a 45 degree angle so there's no glare when lining up the sights. One would only see reflected glare if looking at the bead from a 45 degree angle above it.
Obviously, some of the more elaborate and fancier conversions pictured here, especially in almost new condition as many seem to be, are going to be desirable items and therefore pretty pricey. My question is for the more ordinary gun, does the period correct substitution of King sights, hammer, et cetera, in general enhance or detract from its value (take that term as being in either the collectible or monetary sense)? Any concensus on this, or is it something of a contentious issue?
The 1st time I posted a 38 M&P Super Target on the Forum about 6-7 years ago I was somewhat surprised with how many negative comments were posted "its not Factory so it is not worth as much as if it were original"
It seems over the past 5 years King has become a collectible variation and members have changed their minds or maybe the overall membership has become more open minded. I think they are just plain Cool!!!!
Dan
Goony,
In my opinion this is one of the exceptions to the generally held belief that "if not factory, then not as valuable". I would place a premium on guns that were originally purchased by obviously knowledgeable and discerning individuals who went the extra mile to have these guns "enhanced" with the kind of features that King offered. The King products were high quality and the fit and finish is certainly on par with the S&W standards. Although I do not own one, I am sure these guns are a joy to handle and shoot. Not to mention, these guns just look cool. All this adds value.
If it hasn't happened already, I would guess that this specialized area of collecting is going to see a quicker appreciation than your run of the mill production guns. Threads like this get more people on board with these neatly outfitted gems.
In my opinion this is one of the exceptions to the generally held belief that "if not factory, then not as valuable". I would place a premium on guns that were originally purchased by obviously knowledgeable and discerning individuals who went the extra mile to have these guns "enhanced" with the kind of features that King offered. The King products were high quality and the fit and finish is certainly on par with the S&W standards. Although I do not own one, I am sure these guns are a joy to handle and shoot. Not to mention, these guns just look cool. All this adds value.
If it hasn't happened already, I would guess that this specialized area of collecting is going to see a quicker appreciation than your run of the mill production guns. Threads like this get more people on board with these neatly outfitted gems.
Tam3,
I love it!
I love it!
For anyone interested in vintage King sights, et cetera, this is well worth your time.
See: King Catalog No. 19 (1939)
See: King Catalog No. 19 (1939)
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bmg60
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Hi
I would like to thank everybody that posted there King guns. I have been collecting King guns for over 35 Years. I have some where in the area of 20 different King guns.
In the Large Frames I have one for every model of the 44,s from Triple lock thru the 4th Model. I am missing some of the small frame in king I thing the I frames are very neat.
Thanks again
Jim Fisher
I would like to thank everybody that posted there King guns. I have been collecting King guns for over 35 Years. I have some where in the area of 20 different King guns.
In the Large Frames I have one for every model of the 44,s from Triple lock thru the 4th Model. I am missing some of the small frame in king I thing the I frames are very neat.
Thanks again
Jim Fisher
I think many otherwise knowledgable S&W collectors haven't been up to speed on the King Super Target Revolvers (I know I wasn't until getting involved in this thread). It's one thing for an owner to have added on a few King accessories, and quite another for King to have performed one of their conversions, which besides the fitting of the vent rib assembly with its superior sights, also included (quoting Catalog No. 19 here), "Hand Honed Actions, Adjusted Trigger Pulls, and Balanced Mainsprings."
All that work did not come cheap (at least in terms of the value of Depression-era dollars). A factory stock K-22 Outdoorsman could be bought at that time through King for $38.00; a K-22 Super Target, on the other hand, ran $61.50! That's over a 60% premium, and represents a not inconsequential amount of money back then.
Edit: As to the question of how the value of the Super Target type as a collectible has evolved, see: Smith & Wesson King Super Target Auction
This sale took place almost a year ago, and I don't suppose that gun would sell for less today.
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keith44spl
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Wells, I'm late to the party again...
One of my custom conversions with a modified King mirrored ramp and ivory insert.
Su Amigo,
Dave
One of my custom conversions with a modified King mirrored ramp and ivory insert.
Su Amigo,
Dave
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Russell Cottle
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That's alright, Dave . It was worth the wait.
Exremely nice Pre 27. I like the modified King sight, not so boxy looking especially on the short barrel.
Wells, I'm late to the party again...
One of my custom conversions with a modified King mirrored ramp and ivory insert.
Su Amigo,
Dave
SWOOOON>>>>>>> THUD
Modified
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There is a distinct possibility that I am going a bit overboard with this my King obsession.
Nah. I'm going to need a few dozen more.
Nah. I'm going to need a few dozen more.
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