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SHTF scenario - what ONE longarm would you grab?
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This was great! Thanks for the belly laugh...what a wonderful way to start the New Year!
I own a number of the rifles the OP listed in starting this thread, but the one I would grab in a hurry would be my Steyr Scout Rifle.
It fires an effective cartridge, it's simple and reliable, compact, light, and superbly accurate. In designing it, Jeff Cooper said he wanted a do-it-all rifle, one that could be used in a variety of different scenarios...and I think he succeeded brilliantly.
It fires an effective cartridge, it's simple and reliable, compact, light, and superbly accurate. In designing it, Jeff Cooper said he wanted a do-it-all rifle, one that could be used in a variety of different scenarios...and I think he succeeded brilliantly.
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I don't anticipate any bugout scenario actually developing but it is
interesting to think about the attributes of various survival-combat
weapons we might own. We really are lucky to be able to buy and
possess a wide variety of military type firearms. To narrow it down to
only one certainly requires compromising but one gun in particular has
proven to be rugged and reliable under the worst possible conditions
for many years now. Mikhail Kalashnikov's AK 47 is the one gun I
would want with me in a true survival situation. It's attributes are
well known but some still want to dismiss it as "inaccurate". How much accuracy is enough? My preban Poly Tech Legend AK will shoot 3 1/2"
groups at 100 yds from benchrest with late 80s Norinko FMJ ammo.
Some of the other guns listed here will not do as well I'm sure. My
Romanian rifle with it's sheet metal receiver may or may not do as
well but I don't know because I've never tried it yet. But we don't
carry benches around to shoot from in survival situations so the
limiting factor is really the shooter himself. I think the AK is fully
as accurate as it needs to be.
interesting to think about the attributes of various survival-combat
weapons we might own. We really are lucky to be able to buy and
possess a wide variety of military type firearms. To narrow it down to
only one certainly requires compromising but one gun in particular has
proven to be rugged and reliable under the worst possible conditions
for many years now. Mikhail Kalashnikov's AK 47 is the one gun I
would want with me in a true survival situation. It's attributes are
well known but some still want to dismiss it as "inaccurate". How much accuracy is enough? My preban Poly Tech Legend AK will shoot 3 1/2"
groups at 100 yds from benchrest with late 80s Norinko FMJ ammo.
Some of the other guns listed here will not do as well I'm sure. My
Romanian rifle with it's sheet metal receiver may or may not do as
well but I don't know because I've never tried it yet. But we don't
carry benches around to shoot from in survival situations so the
limiting factor is really the shooter himself. I think the AK is fully
as accurate as it needs to be.
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Might be tempted to just take the Sub2K40 with 25 rd mags that would also fit my Glock 23. I like concealed portability. But can't see myself leaving the rest behind AK, AR, SKS, Mini14, 92SRC, 1894C, 9422mag, 39A, 870, 500A and many more, oh well, guess I'm not leaving, come and get me.
model70hunter
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Send him to Caj's brigade. And further more Caj it wouldn't be a short arm if you hadn't played with big firecrackers a couple of nights ago.
And for Mr. Paladin's question. In your scenario of grabbing and heading for the hills. I live there. I'm already there. Fire wood, canned goods, 3 deer in the freezer, chain saws, sleeping bags and guns are at the ready awaiting my command. For general patrol duty around the farm I would take my Colt AR. For hungry townsfolk I want claymores, for unwanted relatives a high capacity Model 12 loaded with buck shot and my beloved Model 70's for sending messages long distance.
Legions of eaten deer can attest to the finality of a good 130 gr hand load. If one is not yet the undead arrangements can be made. If one is an undead it will be Deja Vue all over again.
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M1A. There can be only one!
To the OP
That was an impressive list of arms and photos.
If those were mine, I would invite all my neighbors over to my house and as they say "Shelter in Place".
That being said,I could never "grab one gun to go".
I realize this is all hypothetical,
but I would much rather fight it out with the whole arsenal.
SWCA #1834
That was an impressive list of arms and photos.
If those were mine, I would invite all my neighbors over to my house and as they say "Shelter in Place".
That being said,I could never "grab one gun to go".
I realize this is all hypothetical,
but I would much rather fight it out with the whole arsenal.
SWCA #1834
During the Y2K non event I kept my Garand and a couple web belts of ammo handy. Now what is behind the door is a Mosin Nagant M44 with a couple belts of ammo. However while my every intent is to stay home if we did bug out someone in the family would be carrying our High Point 995 carbine. Handy size, reliable and 9mm ammo will probably be common.
SweetMK
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I have had my Benelli M1 for quite a while. (They cost $550 when I bought it 
)
I love that it is an automatic, and I never found a shell it would not feed.
The short barrel is quite a bit louder than "normal" shotguns.
It will hold 9 shells, has ghost ring sites, and seems to put a smile on everybody's face that shoots it.
The only thing mine has ever been shot at is clay targets.
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I love that it is an automatic, and I never found a shell it would not feed.
The short barrel is quite a bit louder than "normal" shotguns.
It will hold 9 shells, has ghost ring sites, and seems to put a smile on everybody's face that shoots it.
The only thing mine has ever been shot at is clay targets.
Bozz10mm
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I don't have much choice. Would have to grab the only center fire long gun I have. A mini-14. If I was choosing from the list, I would take the Plain Jane M16. KISS
Joeygun
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Unfortunately after watching several seasons of The Walking Dead I've run this scenario through my head. Size, weight, ammunition on hand, and the number of magazines that I have would bring me to selecting an M1A or AR15 if I was equipped with either at the time of the disaster. I think that there would be some 5.56 or linked 7.62 in the scroungers path. With that being said I'll add that the wife and kids would each take a long gun if we did "bug out" even though I am a fan of shelter in place (barring most hypothetical disasters that force evacuation). If I won the lottery and could supply each family member with an AR15 and bag of magazines that would be great. If I only won a small lottery perhaps a 44 mag lever gun for each to use as a deer rifle, self defense carbine, and long gun for survival.
I give great credit to the posters who consider the 12 gauge selections for the ability to use buckshot or slug, or hunting loads. Very utilitarian and practical. The venerable 30/30 lever guns can be downloaded with Speer Plinkers or similar cast bullets for small game. Thoughts like these area also practical and show the wide range of applications that just one long gun can accomplish.
Finally, a 10/22 and a bag of magazines is a lot of firepower in a light package. Reckon a fella' could use that for squirrels and such.
One long gun.....a tough choice...
I'll ask one question to everyone here without an intent to hijack the thread. What long gun, if any, do you pack on road trips and long family vacations? For ten years I have been carrying a Remington 870 Police with 25 rounds 00 Buck and 25 rounds Remington green/yellow box slug in the trunk on trips like these. Had an ex-sister in law go bat-poop crazy at a family beach house gathering when she heard this.....oh well. Be prepared. Food for thought.
Joeygun
I give great credit to the posters who consider the 12 gauge selections for the ability to use buckshot or slug, or hunting loads. Very utilitarian and practical. The venerable 30/30 lever guns can be downloaded with Speer Plinkers or similar cast bullets for small game. Thoughts like these area also practical and show the wide range of applications that just one long gun can accomplish.
Finally, a 10/22 and a bag of magazines is a lot of firepower in a light package. Reckon a fella' could use that for squirrels and such.
One long gun.....a tough choice...
I'll ask one question to everyone here without an intent to hijack the thread. What long gun, if any, do you pack on road trips and long family vacations? For ten years I have been carrying a Remington 870 Police with 25 rounds 00 Buck and 25 rounds Remington green/yellow box slug in the trunk on trips like these. Had an ex-sister in law go bat-poop crazy at a family beach house gathering when she heard this.....oh well. Be prepared. Food for thought.
Joeygun
jaykellogg
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For me, it would be my AR-15. I have it set up as a patrol rifle with a red dot and I have a 3½ # trigger on it. I have about 20 thirty round magazines and over 2000 rounds. As I understand it Korean shopkeepers successfully kept looters away from their shops during the LA riots with AR-15's.
It is interesting to talk about what you would use in a hypothetical situation. You need something you can get ammunition for and possibly spare parts. In the end each person carries what he is comfortable with and what he can lay his hands on.
It is interesting to talk about what you would use in a hypothetical situation. You need something you can get ammunition for and possibly spare parts. In the end each person carries what he is comfortable with and what he can lay his hands on.
What hills? I'm not so sure that I'm leaving. Driving?
The answer would be very dependent on the exact situation. I'm not sure that a long gun is something I'd want at all. If not, a Para-Ord with nine mags and a 325PD might be in order. If I actually thought I could survive carrying a long gun, the Belgian LAR (50.00) is clearly the best gun I have. However, if the rifle were just a backup in the trunk of my car, my (folding) .223 Galil might be a little lower profile, although if I didn't need it in a hurry, the FN could be broken in half and be at least as low-profile.
Reasons? I have plenty of mags for both guns, both are reliable, both are semi-auto and don't run out of ammo real fast, both are fairly accurate, obviously the FN moreso. I also have compact spare parts and routine maintenance packages already made up for each.
Alpo
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Folding-stock Mini 14 with a 20-rounder in it, fulla PMC 55 grain ball. In a zippered case that does not look like a gun-case. Take one of these "early Vietnam" web ammo pouches, with four more 20s.
http://www.combatsportsupply.com/images/products/detail/m1956ammo.jpg
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It's too cold to be wandering around lost in the woods right now. Can SHTF wait till Spring?
Seriously, unless the nuke sirens are blarring I'm staying home. Where would I go? If there was a general societal meltdown the highway is no place to be. I'm not going to last long wandering around in the woods. I'll stay here. Me and like-minded neighbors will do what we can. I'll keep the AR close by.
Seriously, unless the nuke sirens are blarring I'm staying home. Where would I go? If there was a general societal meltdown the highway is no place to be. I'm not going to last long wandering around in the woods. I'll stay here. Me and like-minded neighbors will do what we can. I'll keep the AR close by.
caint have just one id have to sneak another in
Ivan the Butcher
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I believe in a Savage 24 either a 22/20ga, or 357/20ga. Reasons, light, matching handgun, ample for any game, ammo availability, easy storage, and simple maintenance. You all can face a mob, I'll enjoy the homestead. Ivan
gdnagle
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LP won't last forever so you need to know where to grab a tow truck so you can scavenge other LP tanks to keep you going.
Me Like others already in the hills, NG and FEMA bases around us so I'd go with what I can replenish my ammo with, if I should run out of what's in the basement. 5.56 should be plentiful with all the rounds these organizations have been buying lately. So I'll stick with my AR as I can't shoot through trees and open area around the house is limited to several hundred yards, that's until I get to one of these bases and pick me up a MA DUCE for the roof. No zombie can stand up to good ol' MA no matter how dead they are and it makes a good tree chopper with AP and if anyone wants to come all the way out here to riot they will be to tired to do anything anyhow. If I should have to hit the road I don't expect to be a sniper so anything for me over .223 5.56 is past my ability to see and if they are that far away I don't need to let them know where I'm at, so time for me to honker down or head in another direction until there gone.
I agree. The whole purpose of having a rifle is to limit the number of folks who can tell you what you can and can't.
I would use my Romanian under folder AK in 7.62x39. I see it as , for me anyway, a PDW. At my age, with bifocals etc and the weight of extras, I think it is a good choice.
I would like to have gotten a Ruger Charger 10-22 pistol. Light weight , 10 and 25 round mags and a stock or support of some sort could be rigged up in an emergency. Maybe its time to look for one used.
I would like to have gotten a Ruger Charger 10-22 pistol. Light weight , 10 and 25 round mags and a stock or support of some sort could be rigged up in an emergency. Maybe its time to look for one used.
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