Sick and tired of the elitist snobbery

The Galco Combat Master is the best holster, period. Anyone who doesn't use one is a

Just kidding, of course. It's what works best for me, and when asked, that's the holster I recommend. It may or may not work well for someone else.

I would have a big box of holsters that didn't work well for me, but thanks to ebay, I don't. Thankfully, quality retains most of its value.

I don't like plastic guns or holsters, but I'm not going to disparage someone else's choice of one, if that works for them. Now, that would be elitist.

It sound like you're still figuring out what does and doesn't work. Welcome to the club!
 
I really don't understand why you would label someone as a "snob" or "elitist" simply for expressing a personal opinion as to what works best for THEM.

In most enthusiast gatherings there tends to be the elitist factor. When I played in the sports car world it was the tire du jour. If you didn't buy the most expensive and most current tire, you were wasting your money.

Sometimes folks do lose track of the idea that what works for them may not work for you. When I reffed basketball, the popular shoe was Converse. I can't wear Converse as they just don't fit me. More than once I was asked, "What do you mean they don't fit you? They fit me perfectly."

Another thing that many enthusiasts lose sight of is that not all of us have the same resources or are willing to spend those resources on what is the greatest and bestest.

My Norinco 1911A1 (with trigger job by me) shoots as well for me as a $2,000 custom tuned gun. I guess that makes me a cheap gun snob.
 
Dear 336:
You need t get a life and quit worrying about other peoples opinions unless they are putting food on your family's table and are paying your bills. Remember, "opinions are like A-- H----. Every one has one and generally all used to spout out the same thing.
 
I'm so sick and tired of all of the generalized elitist statements that get thrown around as if it's the De-facto honest to goodness truth.

. . . I bought a pancake holster from a very well known and regarded maker based off all of the good reviews here and else where for a 4" S&W M10. I got the holster and was deeply upset when I found it wasn't suitable for my slim frame/build. When worn there is huge space between my body and the back belt slot on the holster, so big I can slip three fingers in between my body and the holster, unacceptable. Now I have a holster that I can't even use and I'm out all of that money for what is supposed to be a great holster.
Not sure that I understand what statement was supposed to be elitist. However, as many others have pointed out, a lot of us have or had large boxes of unusable holsters. That said, I wouldn't be so sure that yours belongs in one of those boxes. As Iggy pointed out, that holster may just require breaking in. This may be even more true of the better holsters (thicker, stiffer, longer-lasting) than of the cheaper ones. I have had such holsters.

I wouldn't throw it out just yet.
 
Try some deep breathing and maybe also you might find a competent saddle maker in your area that can address your individual needs. The other option is stop putting stock in other peoples opinions as they are just that. Most of the people giving their endorsements to a particular maker of holsters, belts etc. is doing so out of their own personal enjoyment of a found product, is that so difficult to understand, they are just trying to pass on their good experience. Try not to read in to it to much. Good Luck
 
I liken getting the right holster to buying the right suit. If you are lucky enough to be able to buy an off the rack suit from Jos. A. Banks then good for you.

Any "off the rack" suit from Banks, Brooks Brothers, or Nieman Marcus is going to need the ministrations of a good tailor to fit properly. That's for anyone who cares about how they look. Sleeves, trouser bottoms, waist, seat, collar all need a bit of tweaking.
 
No Holster box, EVER!

So, as I hear over & over how everyone has or will have a box of undesireable holsters to bear; I submit my disagreement to that.

I know first hand what it is like to waste my money on things & I hate nothing more.

I have 2 different 9mms, each with a holster - THAT WORKS PERFECTLY!
I spent the time to research what the options were, discovered the most prominant features required & made, what turned out to be the perfect choises - every time. I first determined what was required from me; IWB or OWB, material, cost,type & style, manufacturing process, etc. Then I made my choise. As I already mentioned, everything I purchased works for me, perfectly. I could not ask for anything better.
BOX NEVER NEEDED!
So, not everyone will end up with an unnessesary box of goods.
Look beyond the hype & learn the product & material first.
Oh, did I mention, everything I purchased was on-line.
Most sellers will invite a customer to call them & ask questions about them & their product. This will give you great insight into their product & will answer many questions you may have.
Just wanted to clarify, that I do not have to "fit" into anyone else's mold!
Op, hope you find exactly what you are looking for.
Everyone have a wonderfully great day!
 
Any "off the rack" suit from Banks, Brooks Brothers, or Nieman Marcus is going to need the ministrations of a good tailor to fit properly. That's for anyone who cares about how they look. Sleeves, trouser bottoms, waist, seat, collar all need a bit of tweaking.

Yes---but---he is athletic built so- he should be able to fit in a Brooks Brothers suit albeit a tad of tailoring.

Now---he should get it fitted while wearing his holster---if he cares how he looks, however....

Oh heck---how did i get caught up in this?
 
elitist ----Sorry I had to look it up.
being or characteristic of a person who has an offensive air of superiority and tends to ignore or disdain anyone regarded as inferior <the complacent, elitist attitude of the members at that suburban country club>
 
elitist ----Sorry I had to look it up.
being or characteristic of a person who has an offensive air of superiority and tends to ignore or disdain anyone regarded as inferior <the complacent, elitist attitude of the members at that suburban country club>

Thanks---I can't find my dictionary.

Can you look up "De-facto"?
 
This is not focused directly at this forum but what I have encountered all over the place. Over the last several years I've spent a considerable sum of money on holsters and belts as most have. It is my hope that this post can save others like myself a lot of trouble and money. I'm so sick and tired of all of the generalized elitist statements that get thrown around as if it's the De-facto honest to goodness truth.

I'm talking about all the generalized statements like "so and so pancake holster is the best CCW holster on the market", or "there is nothin' better than a thick leather gun belt". I found that these statements may be true if your like the vast majority of the population in this country and are large of frame/build, but not for smaller framed individuals. I bought a pancake holster from a very well known and regarded maker based off all of the good reviews here and else where for a 4" S&W M10. I got the holster and was deeply upset when I found it wasn't suitable for my slim frame/build. When worn there is huge space between my body and the back belt slot on the holster, so big I can slip three fingers in between my body and the holster, unacceptable. Now I have a holster that I can't even use and I'm out all of that money for what is supposed to be a great holster.

The J frame version of the aforementioned holster however worked quite well when coupled with my 5.11 belt. Not to long ago I thought it was time to upgrade to a leather belt built specifically for the purpose. After some shopping around and comparisons I made my choice and ponied up. I was very disappointed yet again when I found that the J frame pancake holster and the leather belt had the same problem as the larger pancake holster.

Also I couldn't use the leather belt with my BDU trousers that I use for hunting. When trying to wear the belt with the BDU's I can't get the portion of the belt by the buckle through the first belt loop in order to cinch the belt down tight enough. Yet the maker says that it works well with BDU's, maybe for him and his large frame but not for me. On the other hand I have no problems with my military styled cargo belt that all of the elitists flat out say just won't work period, dot end of story.

If your a slim/athletically built individual like myself don't be fooled by all of the snobbery. Yes leather looks nice but it may not work well for you as I found out myself. Sometimes as in my case the more cost effective wilderness tactical and 5.11 type belts may be better for you. Also don't be fooled by pancakes holsters, as you may end up in the same situation I now find myself. The buy once cry once mantra certainly don't work for me. I bought and I'm still crying for all of the money I spent on equipment that don't work that all the snobs said was the only way to go.

This is just me thinking out loud, but maybe you ought to start trying stuff on before you buy it . . .
 
Frankly, anybody that relies on the "internets" for expert opinion...well...
except for me, you can take that to the bank.

The best you can hope for is to sense a consensus. Or a significant trend, which is likely the same thing. Then, put your money down and see if you get lucky. Then, invest in a big box. Or a few slightly smaller boxes, and start your own collection of attempts to fine the ideal belt/holster for whatever shootin' arn you have.
 
The Holster Box

You sound fairly new to concealed carry. Welcome, I hope you find what you need.

If you read the gun rags and peruse the forums, you'll run into the phrase "the holster box." This is a box many of us old-timers, and some not so old-timers, have in our gun room, basement, etc. It's filled with holsters we bought with good intentions but, for some reason, didn't work for us. I'm 59, and it was only 7 years ago when I figured out the two types of holsters that work best for me and my pistol and clothing choices. At about the same time I discovered that many holsters labeled for one model work for several. For example, a Safariland holster for a Glock 19 fits a CZ-75 perfectly. A holster for a Colt Commander (scabbard type, open bottom, no retention) also works well with a Wilson ADP and several other models. But I ramble.

If you have found a holster type that suits you after only a couple of tries, you have done well. List the holsters in the classifieds to mitigate your loss. Be happy you have this problem, this is one of the few countries in the world you can carry concealed.

Good luck, my slender friend!
 
My Norinco 1911A1 (with trigger job by me) shoots as well for me as a $2,000 custom tuned gun. I guess that makes me a cheap gun snob.
Glad there's at least one other good-shootin' Norinco out there. Just for grins, I took one a while back to a neighbor who was one helluva 1911 smith. When he got done, it was shooting cloverleafs at 25 yards and would digest any ammo available. It was my duty piece for several years. It ain't for sale.

Cheapskate gun snob #2.
 
Ticked and peeved?

For all those who are so very upset:
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Muss,

I agree with you on this. A lot of it is trial and error until you discover what is satisfactory to you, at the time. I find myself with a good many holsters OWB also and prefer the IWB now. Then I added a LaserMax to my SW Shield and suddenly most of those are no longer satisfactory.
 
If drinking fine single malt scotch,loving s&w revolvers that are P&R , side lock sxs shotguns, liking gold bullion over paper dollars makes me a snobbery? Well then sign me up as a card caring member.

Remember......WHO LOVES YA BABY!!
 
I am just happy I am a little on the fat side!

Most of the stuff I have purchased, based off advice here, has worked out very well. If not I give it away or toss it in a drawer.

On a side note I have a model 64 and model 10 with a 4 inch barrel and depending on the price and maker of said holster I might be interested. That is how I picked up my last one from a fellow forum member here who realized he didn't care for it as much as he had hoped.
 
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