Sig 365 in .380

[Rodan]

I wonder when the 22lr version will come about?

I would definitely buy a P365X in .22 with a threaded barrel.

With an optic and suppressor, it would be loads of fun to shoot, and good trigger time practice for my 365s in 9mm. All three of them!

 

[waffles]

This is curious in the article. Emphasis added.

Poking around the Web some more reveals two things:

1) No 380ACP P365 on the Sig website;

2) Rumors on Reddit that Sig canceled the project.

I suspect vaporware, sadly.

Yeah without a new press release from Sig I'd say it's dead.

I love my P365XL, and I see no reason personally to carry the same size pistol for the same capacity in .380 over 9mm. I'm guessing Sig was having the same thoughts about it.

 

[BAM-BAM]

Is it a lock breech .380.... if so maybe!

 

[BC38]

IMHO I see no real practical reason for a P365 in 380. After owning a 365 for about three years now I find it very easy to shoot fast and accurately. Even friends who have not shot pistols before have fared very well with it.

The .380 is a marginal SD caliber and even with the ballistic improvements is second fiddle to the 9. I truly know of no one (in my personal life) that has any major objections to shooting the 9mm version and can't imagine that even if Sig did offer a 380 it would sell many of them. The place where the 380 would shine is in an even smaller pistol platform. At least in my mind a lower powered cartridge might be justified for an even smaller package. Just one man's opinion of course.

Pretty much an expansion on my thoughts as well. Since the 9mm version shoots so soft, what is the point of a 380 in the same package? Very similar to the LC9 and LC380. Though to be fair the LC9 wasn't nearly as soft shooting as the P365, so the LC380 at least made some sense.

 

[LVSteve]

Pretty much an expansion on my thoughts as well. Since the 9mm version shoots so soft, what is the point of a 380 in the same package? Very similar to the LC9 and LC380. Though to be fair the LC9 wasn't nearly as soft shooting as the P365, so the LC380 at least made some sense.

I agree that the LC9/9s pistols are not soft shooters. However, while you may find the P365 a soft shooter, somebody with less hand strength and thin wrists would benefit from a 380 version keeping the locked breech action. My wife and her best buddy are but two i could name.

 

[LCC]

we will likely see a continual stream of micro frames coming to market from the various manufacturers as more and more folks come to EDC without previous handgunning experience. For many of them, especially women and the aging, less recoil will be their preference, hence the popularity of the Smith EZ .380.
If Sig does land the .380 Sig, being smaller than an EZ it will be a strong contender in that caliber.
Sig Sauer P365 vs Smith & Wesson M&P 380 Shield EZ size comparison | Handgun Hero

 

[BC38]

I agree that the LC9/9s pistols are not soft shooters. However, while you may find the P365 a soft shooter, somebody with less hand strength and thin wrists would benefit from a 380 version keeping the locked breech action. My wife and her best buddy are but two i could name.

Fair enough. I can see where it would benefit those with weaker hands & wrists. I usually recommend a Bersa Thunder for people looking for an easy 380 to shoot, but if the P365 design were adapted to 380, and shot as relatively soft as the 9mm version it would be a REALLY soft shooter.
Prior to the P365 I carried an LC9 for about 3 years. It was considerably snappier than the P365, so yeah, not a real soft shooter.

 

[LCC]

Sig 365 .380

Now available. My 365 is a fine shooter in 9mm, so have to think the same pistol in .380 would be a fine choice for a comfortable low recoil staggered stack .380. Available with or without MS safety. I see the MS model in my future for pocket carry, as I carry my 365 in an XL frame w/extended mags on a belt holster.
P365-380

 

[LVSteve]

Seems like a plan. The Sig P250 and P290 in 380 are forgotten gems and show they know how to build pistols in 380.

 

[Donn]

Don't have a dog in this fight, just a casual observer. 30 Super Carry's supposed to be the next big thing. If I were Sig, I would've opt'd for that over the 380.

 

[ladder13]

Too late for me, I have an LCP MAX for 380.

 

[M29since14]

Don't have a dog in this fight, just a casual observer. 30 Super Carry's supposed to be the next big thing. If I were Sig, I would've opt'd for that over the 380.

I think their idea is to gobble up whatever of the .380 market that they can, then they'll get around to the other one. They may be lying back a bit to see just what happens with the .30, too. That might be smart? I'm no marketing guy. Everyone knows about .380. The .30 I would bet there will be considerable market hesitation. I really don't see the 365 9mm as being improved much by tinkering, but to each his own.

 

[geeollie]

That 30 SC is veeeerrry interesting.

Just checked Sig's website and would consider a 10 rd 365 in .380 for a house gun or holster carry.
Thanks for posting about it.

 

[Barbarian-CBX]

I have both the P365 and P365XL. The P365 makes a great pocket carry EDC with 12 + 1 9mm.

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[LCC]

Slightly smaller than 9mm, slightly less powerful, only one ammo manufacturer at present, only one line of handguns currently offered in that caliber.
30SC seems to be a solution in search of a problem

 

[LVSteve]

Many will question why have a 380 version of a 9mm gun. For those who are recoil shy and/or lack hand strength for racking a 9mm pistol, the 380 variant makes a lot of sense.

 

[CAJUNLAWYER]

Well I've got MY .380. I'm waiting for S&W to make the M&P380 into a double stack like Ruger did with their LCP max

 

[Echo40]

Don't have a dog in this fight, just a casual observer. 30 Super Carry's supposed to be the next big thing. If I were Sig, I would've opt'd for that over the 380.

If it were the next big thing then everyone would be scrambling to get a pistol chambered in .30SC by now, and SIG surely would have made a P365 chambered in it.

.380 ACP is the safer bet because it's already a popular civilian Self-Defense cartridge and guaranteed to sell well.

 

[reddog81]

If it were the next big thing then everyone would be scrambling to get a pistol chambered in .30SC by now, and SIG surely would have made a P365 chambered in it.

.380 ACP is the safer bet because it's already a popular civilian Self-Defense cartridge and guaranteed to sell well.

I agree. I can guarantee .380 ammo will be available 10 years from now. I have no idea if .30SC will be around 2 years from now.

 

[Echo40]

Ammo will most likely remain available, as even extremely old cartridges which have been completely depreciated remain in production, not to mention cartridges which more or less completely flopped like 9x18 Ultra are still produced in limited quantities, such is the beauty of metallic cartridges, they're easy enough to produce that companies will continue to produce ammo for practically any cartridge which will sell, even in the smallest of quantities.

For example, .38 Super Automatic and especially .45 Super Automatic, two cartridges which have never been mainstream, nor have many firearms been chambered in them, yet both remain in production, and can be purchased, just don't expect to find them on a shelf in your average gunshop.
Likewise, even if .30 Super Carry fails to catch on, it will most likely remain in production, and will be available, even if only via special order.

Honestly, the only cartridges I'm aware of which are no longer in production are really old proprietary cartridges which were quickly depreciated like 7.62x25 Borchardt or 9mm Mars.
Other than that, the only ammunition which has ever gone completely out of production in the short term is unusual, proprietary ammunition like Volcanic Rocket Ball, Gyrojet, and Dardick Trounds.

Just one of the many reasons why I laugh at the asserted "death" of the .40 S&W cartridge. Just because something isn't popular anymore doesn't mean it's dead.