Sig Sauer Wins US Pistol contract

[LVSteve]

I would think a striker fired
pistol would be more prone to jams from dirt, sand, ect.

I don't see why. The area around the hammer on most hammer operated pistols looks like a prime place for dirt to enter. On a striker gun the rear of the slide is pretty buttoned up.

 

[WVSig]

I understand the 9mm for Nato. And all can use the same ammo if need be. I guess I have never read about the need of allies to use other countrys 9mm.

I would think if the 9mm was key, simple change's to parts from US makes would do the trick.

It's a big dollar amount, would rather it went to a US maker.

Your point is correct. It's just that so many from our Military always had the 1911 45cal. And they always served well.
My 1911 has never failed me, so I guess I'm more of old fashioned type fellow.

Thank you,

Do you know where the Sig P320 is produced?

SIG SAUER, Inc.
72 Pease Boulevard
Newington, NH 03801

These are US origin pistol built by US workers in NH. All Sigs sold in the US are made here. Cohen who is the CEO of Sig Sauer is based in the US. A lot of the $$$ going into this contract will be spend here in the US.

I love the 1911 but I do not believe it is the right pistol for the military in this day and age. Capacity is king. 17+1 in a compact light package is hard to beat.

 

[Leatherman-Cowboy]

WVSig

You are correct the gun will be made in the US, by American workers,,,not disputing that.
My point was to use a US manufacturer. I did look up Sig Sauer before I posted. Schleswig-Holstein, Germany.

I have no doubt it is a fine gun, and sure it will be very well made.
The 1911's have all been involved in all sorts of wars etc, mud-snow and so on. Very rugged use. We did not treat our 1911's with tender care.

Either way, Sig Sauer has the contract, and happy American worker's will be producing it.

Thank you,

 

[Drm50]

I guess it's fruitless to try to outguess anything that government
does. With different ideas now in Washington, maybe they will
sell Berettas, instead of paying to have them destroyed. It is true
that the handgun has a very small role in combat. They are handy to have when you need one, one that works. Since it seems a lot of near future troubles are going to be in sand, how
well will the Tupperware hold up.

 

[S&W Coastie]

When the Coast Guard switched to the Sig in 2006, we gave all of our Beretta M9s to DOD so they could be used by other branches. I was happy to hear they weren't getting destroyed because they were still serviceable at the time.

 

[TTSH]

I suspect that Glock failed to meet the "modular" requirement.

I guess it's fruitless to try to outguess anything that government does. With different ideas now in Washington, maybe they will sell Berettas, instead of paying to have them destroyed. It is true that the handgun has a very small role in combat. They are handy to have when you need one, one that works. Since it seems a lot of near future troubles are going to be in sand, how well will the Tupperware hold up.

Let's just all hope and pray that this choice was made because the U.S. Army's boots-on-the-ground soldiers really, really want and need a fully-modular Tinkertoy-like pistol design and not just because of some politically-correct concepts of openness, inclusiveness, fairness and kumbaya.

They are turning down some pretty darn good pistols that are not 100.00% fully-modular in order to take the one pistol that truly is fully-modular (at least by the current definition). In other words, this was never really a contest. One pistol met the spec and... surprise, surprise... that pistol was chosen.

Let's hope it really is the right choice for our soldiers.

 

[Cardboard_killer]

I've yet to see a negative review of the Sig, although negative reviews of guns are rare to see. In defense of polymer pistols, capacity is not king, weight is king. Having to lug a brick like the M9 or 1911 must be discouraging--that's another half a pound of steel to strap on.

 

[Ozark Marine]

Let's just all hope and pray that this choice was made because the U.S. Army's boots-on-the-ground soldiers really, really want and need a fully-modular Tinkertoy-like pistol design and not just because of some politically-correct concepts of openness, inclusiveness, fairness and kumbaya.

They are turning down some pretty darn good pistols that are not 100.00% fully-modular in order to take the one pistol that truly is fully-modular (at least by the current definition). In other words, this was never really a contest. One pistol met the spec and... surprise, surprise... that pistol was chosen.

Let's hope it really is the right choice for our soldiers.

I really don't think the new Secretary of Defense General Mattis can be pushed into equipping inferior weapon systems for our armed forces.

 

[TTSH]

I really don't think the new Secretary of Defense General Mattis can be pushed into equipping inferior weapon systems for our armed forces.

Well, the "Mad Dog" just became our new Secretary of Defense yesterday so let's give it a few days or weeks and see if anything changes with this. I'm guessing he has other things on his plate right now that are a little more pressing than plastic "PC" pistols.

 

[K Frame Keith]

You're referring to the USCG, I suppose?

The USCG issues the SIG P229R-DAK in .40 S&W. Our son tells me the trigger is excellent and a great improvement over the M-9 they previously issued.

 

[okiegtrider]

Let's hope it really is the right choice for our soldiers.

Yessir, this right here.

Much more important than all our personal preferences and nostalgic wishes combined.

 

[Ptarmigan]

I'm sure Trump will demand that all Sigs manufactured for U.S. troops be manufactured in the good ol' USA. I know they are now, but can Sig's American factory fill an order like this on a timely basis?

 

[S&W Coastie]

The USCG issues the SIG P229R-DAK in .40 S&W. Our son tells me the trigger is excellent and a great improvement over the M-9 they previously issued.

It's much better than the M9s we used to carry before. There was a learning curve with the DAK trigger though. I qualified with the gun the first time we went to the range with them in 2006, but I know a lot of fellow Coasties who had to go to the range multiple times before they qualified.

The Sig has held up well in the 11 years the CG has been using it. I liked how it fit better in my hand and the fact that we had .40 cal hollow points for doing law enforcement. I have a Sig P229 that I bought a few years ago, but mine is DA/SA. I prefer it over the DAK.

 

[comtedeloach]

What caliber?



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[sigp220.45]

What caliber?



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None of the announcements have said. Sig submitted both 9mm and .40 caliber models.

 

[Railguy2342]

We used the SIG 229 (40cal) in the Military(service weapon)....had a horrible 2hr long trigger pull...I hated that thing.

They must be different than the civilian version, mine has a great trigger in the single action mode. Don't like that first round in DA a whole lot.

 

[okiegtrider]

Before the last few days I never gave much thought to a P320. Not sure I have ever seen one outside of a photo on the net. But, with it becoming the new U.S. Army issue, I had to read up on it a little.

I have to say I'm a bit intrigued by the modular aspect to this gun. The idea of popping a trigger mechanism into a different frame with a barrel and slide to make a new size or caliber is at least interesting. How well it works? I don't know. At least one poster here says SIG has it down. Maybe they do.

I do know my local fun shop has a couple coming in soon and when they show up will have to give it a good look see.

 

[CZU]

Hopefully SIG will do better with this roll out than they did with the MCX and MPX.

 

[dmar]

I like the P320, very nice out-of-the-box trigger, maybe the best of the poly striker-fired guns. The Walter and H&K VP 9 are very close in that department, as well. I like the grip feel of the new Sig.

I've been interested in a P320 compact, but after shooting my friend's example, I've just gotten hung up on how top heavy this gun is. Lots of slide above the frame. Now, I understand this is a Sig thing (I've got a more than a few of the traditional Sig P series pistols), but it really stood out to me with this gun, and for the concealed carry use I've had in mind for it... The one I shot was accurate, which you'd expect in a quality, modern poly gun with a wonderful trigger.

I do prefer the lower slide ergos of my Glocks. I also prefer my H&K VP 9 for a larger striker-fired gun for the range, home defense, etc. While the Glock trigger is decent, and once 'learned,' is very serviceable, it does not compare to the P320 in terms of a light, easy trigger pull. This has a real affect on most shooters' accuracy.

The H&K has the best overall ergos, for me, and the quality is top notch. Also, to me, the Glock seems much more time/battle tested in terms of quality and reliability, compared to the P320. But, obviously, the government must be satisfied with the new P320's quality.

Who knows, I may end up with one some day...

 

[dmar]

They must be different than the civilian version, mine has a great trigger in the single action mode. Don't like that first round in DA a whole lot.

Sounds like you are comparing/confusing two different trigger options. The referenced P229 was said to have a DAK trigger. The Sig DAK trigger is not a DA/SA trigger. The DAK is interesting, it functions like a lighter pull DA trigger, 6.5 lbs., if I remember correctly.

The DAK can also be pulled using a shorter reset after the initial trigger pull, which actually increases the trigger pull weight of the second pull by a couple of pounds. Using this technique is like a DA/SA in reverse. Most just use the full trigger reset with the consistent 6.5 pull.

In short, with the DAK you can chose whether you use longer, lighter pulls, or shorter, slightly heavier pulls. It's a nice trigger.

To confuse things a bit more, and as you probably know, the new P320 that the government just selected has a striker-fired trigger mechanism... I like the choices we have nowadays!