I recently bought a 70's era 2" Model 10 snubbie, locks tight and in very nice condition. But it shoots low and to the right, very much so at 25 yards, less so at 15 yards; if I shoot high and to the left I can get on the black. Is there any way to fix these nonadjustable sights?
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Hi, and welcome! You didn't mention what type of ammunition you used. These are regulated for 158 grain rounds at moderate velocities; any factory standard pressure loading in this weight should be about right for elevation. If it is still off for windage, it may need adjustment by the factory or a gunsmith. Be sure to use a solid rest to control the "human factor".
Alk8944
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If you are shooting bullets less than 158 gr. the gun will shoot low, and it can have an effect on windage also.
.38 revolvers of that period and earlier were regulated for 158 gr. lead round nose standard velocity ammunition. No +P, no LSWCHP, etc. Elevation is engineered into the gun and usually will be very close with the noted ammunition. They determined correct sight dimensions so guns would shoot right and made them all with the same dimensions.
Windage can be corrected if necessary, but it is done by bending the frame (really!) and it better be someone who understands how to do it or a lot of damage can be done. It is NOT done by striking the barrel with a babbitt bar as you see mentioned from time-to-time on this forum. And, yes, I do know how, and have done so many times. This is how it is done by the factory.
The windage could also be your grip or how you are "seeing" the sights. Try the right ammunition before trying to do anything. A fixed-sight revolver can only be regulated for one specific load, all others will shoot away from the sights.
.38 revolvers of that period and earlier were regulated for 158 gr. lead round nose standard velocity ammunition. No +P, no LSWCHP, etc. Elevation is engineered into the gun and usually will be very close with the noted ammunition. They determined correct sight dimensions so guns would shoot right and made them all with the same dimensions.
Windage can be corrected if necessary, but it is done by bending the frame (really!) and it better be someone who understands how to do it or a lot of damage can be done. It is NOT done by striking the barrel with a babbitt bar as you see mentioned from time-to-time on this forum. And, yes, I do know how, and have done so many times. This is how it is done by the factory.
The windage could also be your grip or how you are "seeing" the sights. Try the right ammunition before trying to do anything. A fixed-sight revolver can only be regulated for one specific load, all others will shoot away from the sights.
Went out this morning to the range with a box of 158 gr LRN; amazing what a difference it made. I had been shooting 130 grain FMJ, lined up much better on the black at both 15 and 25 yards. Thanks for advice, have more confidence with it now.
magnum12pm
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I was wondering ( not to start a War), but it seems that many folks want to use 25 yards as a sighting standard for weapons clearly designed for short range self defense. It would seem a short range weapon that prints inside a 3 inch circle from 15 yards to 6 feet would surely do the intended job. I guess its whatever your preference and expectations are. I like perfection myself but would not worry much about a 2 inch barreled gun shooting off center couple of inches at 25 yards, thats just me though!
Sighting
I agree with previous poster.
All my ccw practice is done at five yards.
Any further away then that, I am going to run...
Not fight !
Anyway, I do shoot my Model 41, my Model 52 and such at 25
yards , at least sometimes.
Because as bullseye guns , they were meant to be shot as such.
I agree with previous poster.
All my ccw practice is done at five yards.
Any further away then that, I am going to run...
Not fight !
Anyway, I do shoot my Model 41, my Model 52 and such at 25
yards , at least sometimes.
Because as bullseye guns , they were meant to be shot as such.
I agree w/above poster. Shoot someone at more than 15 feet and a lawyer will probably take away everything you own, except your life because you can still provide income to whomever you shot. Run when you can, shoot only when cornered and no other option. I have seen it, and testified on shooters behalf. Jury are not your friends or peers.
amd6547
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Nonsense. I expect my SD weapons to reach, with combat accuracy to 25yds.
I shoot service handguns out to 100yds.
If you cannot envision a situation where you might want to shoot in self defense at 25yds, you are not considering the possibilities. The time to find out your pistols capabilities at that range is not when you need to make the shot.
Besides, shooting a snub at 25yds is fun...they can be quite accurate.
I shoot service handguns out to 100yds.
If you cannot envision a situation where you might want to shoot in self defense at 25yds, you are not considering the possibilities. The time to find out your pistols capabilities at that range is not when you need to make the shot.
Besides, shooting a snub at 25yds is fun...they can be quite accurate.
I agree 15 yds makes more sense than 25 yds; still its nice to see how accurately I can shoot. In addition to the S&W 10 2", I have a Makarov PM (Bulgarian). It is incredibly accurate, at 25 yards and even farther. But I like the feel of the Smith, its recoil is less than the Mak, and its punch is stronger.
Any recommendations for a good IWB holster for the Smith 2" (K Frame)?
Any recommendations for a good IWB holster for the Smith 2" (K Frame)?
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