Sigma SW40ev FAILURE (kinda)

[vector16]

If you have not read any of my previous posts about the Sigma 40ev you probably should after you read this one.
I went up to the firing line today and I brought my full arsenal. My Dad came with because he is thinking about purchasing his first gun and wanted to get a feel of the different calibers. I brought around 3,500 rounds with me for some pistols (including my Sigma), rifles, carbines, and some shotguns.
We had shot quite a few rounds with almost everything and then I decided to pull out the old Sigma 40ve. For those of you that don't know, I have fired about 18,000 rounds through this gun and have made it a mission to see when this gun will fail. I have put the worst ammo through this gun imaginable, cast reloads, +p cast reloads, +p, +p+, aluminum cases, steel, you name it. Well today I was firing Wolff ammo. These are the worst of the worst in my book and I would not fire them out of any of my other guns even if I were told "the gun would be replaced with a new one". I fired 390 rounds though it, the last 50 were rapid fire. On shot 391 the gun froze and I did not know if it was a FTF or FT eject ot what it was. All I know is the gun was frozen, the slide was not back far enough to remove it and not forward enough to rack the slide, just frozen in place.
This is where it gets interesting. I called the range master over to my bench and explained to him the situation and there was a round stuck in the barrel. He asked, "Is the round spent or live". I told him that I did not know. Then he did something I had never seen or heard of and never really want to see again as long as I live. He proceeded to take a 10" steel rod in one hand and pick the Sigma up by the muzzle, look down the barrel, stick one end of the rod down the barrel and start jamming the rod into it. Remember I don't know if the round is live or spent. After he did that for about 10 seconds and had everyone just starring at him in amazement at such ahww I took the gun out of his hand and gave him my opinion of what an [you can guess] he was and told him he had no business at all working on a firing line and especially as a range master, along with a few other choice words. I went back to my truck and got an eyeglass repair kit which has a tiny screw driver, got it behind the stuck round and pried it a little further into the barrel so the slide would close. I took the slide off and saw the round had been spent already. It was stuck in the barrel pretty good; it took some force with pliers to get it out. What happened was, the round had exploded in the barrel and was cracked, broken and stuck in the barrel. I proceeded to remove it and fire an additional 100 rounds through it without incident.
That's my story of "I got the gun to jam". This was of no fault of the gun, just really bad ammo. I plan on purchasing another in the next few months in a 9mm. I personally have put this gun through hell, on purpose to try to get it to fail on me. The gun has not failed only one cartridge has had a problem and it was bad ammo anyway. If this was a Glock and I had put it through this kind of abuse, the gun would have exploded and been ruined LONG ago.
I recommend the S&W Sigma SW40ve or the 9mm version to anyone that wants a gun that is extremely reliable, can feed any ammo, safe to use for a beginner or expert and is just an all around durable gun with a lifetime warranty to boot.

 

[JcMack]

Early Sigmas were so unreliable that their reputation still follows to this day. Look how far ahead of the game S&W was with the single stack 9mm and .380. Too bad nothing in the line worked.

 

[Rule3]

If this was a Glock and I had put it through this kind of abuse, the gun would have exploded and been ruined LONG ago.

It is a Glock.

How can you know what a Glock would have endured? I am by no means a Glock fan.

I am glad that you have such a reliable firearm.

 

[vector16]

It is a Glock.

How can you know what a Glock would have endured? I am by no means a Glock fan.

I am glad that you have such a reliable firearm.

It has the same design as a Glock. Not the same gun by far. The components are all different materials and have a few minor changes. See you should have read my other posts. The barrel has raised rifling and a slightly different barrel design so it is able to feed the +p,+p+, and cast rounds. Although some of the parts are interchangeable with glock, they have minor differences. The material that Glock uses in their barrel combined with the design and the rifling makes the Glock an inferior weapon. If you were to fire cast bullets out of a Glock, the lead from the bullet itself would leave behind lead deposits and eventually clog the barrel with enough lead a bullet would not be able to pass through causing the gun to explode in the hands of its operator. The receiving end of the barrel has another difference from Sigma and its minor. Loading the rounds avove like the fun ones to shoot, +p+, would make the barren explode as well. In the Glock owners manual and in a lot of these videos, they tell you "do not use +p or +p+ cartridges." And this is for good reason.

 

[Rule3]

It has the same design as a Glock. Not the same gun by far. The components are all different materials and have a few minor changes. See you should have read my other posts. The barrel has raised rifling and a slightly different barrel design so it is able to feed the +p,+p+, and cast rounds. Although some of the parts are interchangeable with glock, they have minor differences. The material that Glock uses in their barrel combined with the design and the rifling makes the Glock an inferior weapon. If you were to fire cast bullets out of a Glock, the lead from the bullet itself would leave behind lead deposits and eventually clog the barrel with enough lead a bullet would not be able to pass through causing the gun to explode in the hands of its operator. The receiving end of the barrel has another difference from Sigma and its minor. Loading the rounds avove like the fun ones to shoot, +p+, would make the barren explode as well. In the Glock owners manual and in a lot of these videos, they tell you "do not use +p or +p+ cartridges." And this is for good reason.

The Sigma was such a direct copy of the Glock that Glock sued and won a lawsuit against SW and for every Sigma made, SW had to pay Glock.

Glocks have polygonal rifling as do HK's which do not like lead.

This is not the original "official" test but try this with your Sigma.

Glock 21 Torture Test - Theprepared.com

 

[vector16]

The Sigma was such a direct copy of the Glock that Glock sued and won a lawsuit against SW and for every Sigma made, SW had to pay Glock.

Glocks have polygonal rifling as do HK's which do not like lead.

This is not the original "official" test but try this with your Sigma.

Glock 21 Torture Test - Theprepared.com

I am well aware of the law suite. I think its fantastic that Glock makes a gun that the owner can pack it full of mud, keep it in wet sand, garden soil, piss, baby powder, and run it over with a car and the gun will still operate. Its amazing and that is a fact.
My S&W Sigma may or may not be able to handle that and that is fine to.
It is a shame and I am 100% sure that every gun owner on the planet will agree with me on this , that a glock makes a great play toy you can do all those things with that no one on earth would ever do to a gun or a $0.25 quarter for that matter and it still works. Just an FYI the quarter still works too. The part that is a shame is that the glock does not like any kind of bullet. they have to be new, not reloads, and if they are a kind of bullet that has a little extra power or are cast bullets or any of the other bullets I had mentioned the Glock, if fired, may take the owners hand off when it explodes. See, as I have said in other posts which you may want to read, I saw a guy at an indoor range that thought that his glock was the best and nothing was better than a Glock, and Glock was king. He decided to prove everyone wrong and loaded some of the bullets mentioned above and fired them and the bullets destroyed his gun and took his right hand with it. This is all because, not that he was firing the wrong cal. of bullet, but the wrong kind of bullet. See, most bullets are made of lead and Glock pistols do not like lead bullets. therefore Glocks don't like most bullets. Glocks like to be buried in mud, ran over by cars, and covered in baby powder, not used as a gun because if they are used as a gun they need to be able to fire bullets. If you are in a sticky spot and the only bullets available are the ones mentioned above than you are in some deep doodoo because glock pistols do like lead bullets the most popular bullet type on the planet. Do you see where I am going with this yet. Guns use and fire projectiles called bullets not wet sand, not garden soil, not baby powder, not water, not the waste from my kids dirty diaper, but real lead bullets