As maligned as the F series Sigma is, I have to say that from my experience, the 9F is a better pistol than the 9VE. Nothing wrong at all with the 9VE, but the F series definitely has a better "Glock-like" trigger. Maybe, as some have speculated, the trigger (FCG) was thee issue with the Glock lawsuit. Don't know, but grouping and rapid fire accuracy is better with my 9F than either the 9VE I owned or the 40VE I still own. The F-series ain't pretty, that's for sure.