S&W J frame vs. Glock 42

I'll take 38 Special ANY day over the .380
I'll take a revolver ANY day over a micro 380 semi auto.

But regarding the OP's thoughts.... whatever works for YOU as the best compromise between concealability and effectiveness. (Fastbolt said it best, in his above post)
 
This is an interesting dialog. I like my revolvers, but with the current socio-economic climate and the reality that I am disabled and unable to run, any conflict that I may find myself in will require that I make a stand. My comments are influenced by my experience in the Sig Academy's shoot house last year.

I can shoot all of my handguns relatively proficiently either strong hand or weak hand. I do have a damaged weak arm, so I don't want to have to do a reload in close proximity to a threat, so that pretty much negates a revolver. At this point in time, I'd rather have 10 rounds immediately available with a reload. As much as I enjoy my G42 and G43, they would be my last semi-auto resort. My priority would be a:
P365 loaded with Hornady Critical Defense,
P365-380 loaded with the Lehigh Defense 68gr Extreme Defense bullet,
G26, again loaded with Hornady Critical Defense,
Glock 30 if I have to enter an active hot zone in order to rescue my children.

I find that if I have to do a one-handed reload, I can do it faster and easier with a semi-auto than a revolver.
 
I avoided your quandary by buying the G43 instead of the 42. With a +1 magazine extension, I have 8 9mm's onboard vs. 5 .38's, in a pretty-much-the-same-size package, and never feel compromised...
 
I’ve carried the same 442 IWB for 33 years! I would over the years carry a few different 640’s iwb and when the 42 came out and was approved for carry that was in the rotation. You can’t go wrong with either. Better to have and not need , Then to need and not have.
 
First, I want to say I love J frame Smiths. I’ve got a no dash M60, a no dash M37, a M442 PC, and I just picked up the new M640 PC Black. I’m looking for a M649 and that will be my next purchase. But, I also have a Glock 42 in .380 which I like. When it comes time to select one of these for CC I’m conflicted. As far as effectiveness of .38 special and .380acp I personally think it’s a toss up with appropriate loads. I like the feel of both guns in my hand and, to be honest, I shoot the G42 slightly better. Also, I find it easier to conceal the flat Glock than the Smiths. The Smith hold 5 rounds and with my flat plate magazine the Glock is 7+1. With all that said, the Smiths get equal time in my summer carry rotation. But, sometimes wonder if I’m
“undergunned”. I tend to opt for the Smiths in suburban low threat environments and opt for Glock when I go into the city.

What do you guys think of this?
I think you need one of these.

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I can definitely relate to this thread, as I routinely pocket carry a Smith Airweight, but occasionally tote a G48 ( in a Fobus paddle holster).
I've hauled around various other pistols, but I can never seem to shake myself loose of my trusty Airweight for very long.
I can comfortably carry in everything from baggy gym shorts, to blue jeans, to dress pants, and even in a small handlebar pouch on my bicycle.
I realize I could find myself in a situation involving multiple assailants, and be wishing I had a Glock 17 and a spare 33rd mag, but given my habits and AO, it's pretty unlikely.
I belive a great many threats can be sidestepped by good situational awareness, and avoiding higher risk environments, and after that, I'm also a big believer in the deterent-factor. ( even the stupidest criminals don't WANT to get shot.....and i don't WANT to actually shoot anybody!)
When traveling, or in sketchier areas, I'll pack "more gun", but for 99.9% of REALISTIC scenarios, I'm comfortable and confident in the safety and reliability of a quality revolver, and the effectiveness of 5 Gold Dots.
Yes, you can put that on my headstone! ;)
 
There’s the AIRWEIGHT .38SPL

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S&W Model 642, stainless steel barrel and cylinder with aluminum frame.


Then, there’s the AirLight .38SPL:

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S&W Model 342 (Discontinued), Titanium cylinder and Scandium aluminum frame. And yes, I did plug its silly lock hole, replace its thumb piece, and install an XS Big Dot Gen.2 Yellow Tritium front sight.

But, here’s the lightweight, convenient carrying sized, outstanding 9mm pistol, which is only rarely mentioned:

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Kahr P9, stainless steel barrel and slide (blackened) with polymer frame.

I have since installed XS Big Dot Gen.2 Yellow Tritium sights:

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Kahr makes the even smaller PM9, which I found just too small for me to hold well enough to shoot with the precision I demand of myself. But, as a semi-auto GET OFF ME Gun, it would be hard to beat, though a 2” Centennial J-Frame would be more reliable in a hard contact wrestling defensive fight for your life.
 
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First, I want to say I love J frame Smiths. I’ve got a no dash M60, a no dash M37, a M442 PC, and I just picked up the new M640 PC Black. I’m looking for a M649 and that will be my next purchase. But, I also have a Glock 42 in .380 which I like. When it comes time to select one of these for CC I’m conflicted. As far as effectiveness of .38 special and .380acp I personally think it’s a toss up with appropriate loads. I like the feel of both guns in my hand and, to be honest, I shoot the G42 slightly better. Also, I find it easier to conceal the flat Glock than the Smiths. The Smith hold 5 rounds and with my flat plate magazine the Glock is 7+1. With all that said, the Smiths get equal time in my summer carry rotation. But, sometimes wonder if I’m
“undergunned”. I tend to opt for the Smiths in suburban low threat environments and opt for Glock when I go into the city.

What do you guys think of this?
Since you ask I think you should carry what you are most comfortable with comfort wise and mentally.
 
I've had a Glock 42 and I had a 642, I also have a Ruger LCP. For me the 42 is too big to be a pocket pistol at least for me personally, the 642 concealed much better. The LCP is truly a pocket pistol and I personally don't find it much harder to shoot than the 42.

As for caliber I trust the 38 over 380 any day. There are no 380 hollowpoints that I trust 100% and I want more than the 12 inch minimum of penetration. All of the 380 hollowpoints that hit 12 do it in clear gel, clear gel isn't the same as true 10% calibrated gelatin. I've seen some highly touted 38 special hollowpoints (looking at you Critical Defense) that hit 12-13 in clear gel only do 8-10 in the real stuff. For me 380 has to be in a tiny pocket pistol, only carried as a back up or when carrying something bigger just isn't possible and it has to be loaded with fmj or some type of solid. I haven't seen Erich around for a while but he coined the phrase, shot placement is king penetration is queen everything else is angels dancing on the head of a pin. Even with 38 special there are only a few hollowpoints I trust and all are +p loads. The Federal version of the FBI Load, and the Winchester and Remington 125 grain SJHP, all 3 prioritize penetration over expansion. If I can't find one of my preferred loads the 38 gets solids as well.

 
I am exactly the opposite. I have been carrying the same gun in the same (or same replacement) holster for 30 years. I have tried to stray, but I keep coming back.
BUT...tell us which gun/ammo/holster, 65-2x2! Inquiring minds want...NEED, to know!
Alli~
 
I am an auto guy so that is my vote.

That being said I do own a J frame. It goes in the pocket of my shorts when I jog or bike. It also goes in the pocket of my jeans when I go to the dr office since they don't like guns and would notice a Beretta M9 on my belt.
 
Like the OP, I have many J-frame revolvers. Many revolvers in general actually, and use several of them for self-defense purposes. If you subscribe to the theory which I do, in that three handguns of the same "family" can serve all defensive needs, then a sound J-frame would be one of those three if the family is revolvers.

All CCW guns are a compromise, as portable insurance. If you knew trouble was coming you would arm yourself with a shoulder gun. If you were a high-risk individual, you might wisely select a larger more capable handgun. But the J frame is entirely suitable as a CCW for the vast majority of situations, which the vast majority of people find themselves. I never feel underarmed when carrying a J frame - or any revolver - when appropriate.

Having said that, there is much to recommend the Glock 42. Like the OP, I also have one. If my 3-handgun family were Glock pistols, the G42 would be one of them. It is thinner than a revolver to make carry easier, holds a few more rounds, and is more practically accurate in most hands. You can easily add high visibility and/or tritium sights to the G42 as an accuracy and speed enhancement... with the revolver you get what you get.

While the .38 Special can be had in a few somewhat more powerful loads than the .380 - and with heavier bullets - unless you are shooting a steel J-frame, they are not conducive to accurate shooting. My chronograph gives the Federal .380 99 grain HST load 1030 fps out of the G42 for 235 ft lbs of energy. The popular Speer .38 Special 135 grain GDHP load chronos 855 fps out of my Model 36, for 220 ft lbs of energy, That's not enough difference, to make a difference.

If you carry a reload, the G42 magazine is more user friendly for carry than a cylindrical speedloader. But the speedstrip device for revolvers is very unobtrusive in a pocket. While one can practice can get pretty good with revolver speed loading, a pistol magazine will always be faster and require less practice and effort.

Finally, it is insanely easy to attach a Streamlight TLR-6 mini-weaponlight to the G42, giving you a low-light capability should your circumstances require it. Indeed, when traveling, your CCW generally becomes your only gun, including on the nightstand. The small profile and light weight of the TLR-6 allows you to easily carry the G42 with it concealed, in the same manner as always.

Much is made of pants pocket carry.... too much in my opinion. I rarely pants pocket carry even in the sweltering heat and humidity of the summer. On the other hand, I don't walk around bare-chested or in a "wife-beater" tank top, either. A t-shirt easily covers either a J-frame or G42 CCW in an IWB holster. I find revolvers a poor choice for pants pocket carry in the rare times that I do - the cylinder bulge is too thick, and anything much over 10-12 1/2 ounces loaded is too heavy in the pocket of lightweight summer shorts.

Winter coat pocket carry, on the other hand, is quite valid, when you are bundled up and a holstered handgun is difficult to access quickly or discreetly. Here the "hammerless" J-frame is superior in terms of safety, snag-resistance in drawing, and the ability to fire from within the pocket.

Since the grip angle and trigger press of the J-frame and G42 are more similar than most other revolver/pistol pairings, I would practice with both, and select the one that is best for the given circumstances at hand.
 
My J Frames are like old friends, I’m just so comfortable shooting and carrying them. If I felt one wasn’t enough I’d carry two. S&W got this one right...
 
In addition to factory loads, I reload 380 with a number of different bullet styles, both lead and jacketed. My Glock 380 is reliable with all of them. I shoot it regularly and it gives me no trouble. I trust it to carry.
 
Colt 1908. Pocket are custom belt holster. A very well used SW mdl 38 if it’s hot are rain is expected. Finish is ruined anyway.
 
This is an interesting dialog. I like my revolvers, but with the current socio-economic climate and the reality that I am disabled and unable to run, any conflict that I may find myself in will require that I make a stand. My comments are influenced by my experience in the Sig Academy's shoot house last year.

I can shoot all of my handguns relatively proficiently either strong hand or weak hand. I do have a damaged weak arm, so I don't want to have to do a reload in close proximity to a threat, so that pretty much negates a revolver. At this point in time, I'd rather have 10 rounds immediately available with a reload. As much as I enjoy my G42 and G43, they would be my last semi-auto resort. My priority would be a:
P365 loaded with Hornady Critical Defense,
P365-380 loaded with the Lehigh Defense 68gr Extreme Defense bullet,
G26, again loaded with Hornady Critical Defense,
Glock 30 if I have to enter an active hot zone in order to rescue my children.

I find that if I have to do a one-handed reload, I can do it faster and easier with a semi-auto than a revolver.
My belief is, always carry and if you are going someplace where you need to carry one than best to carry two.
 
OP, thanks for explaining your situation and the reasons for carrying your favorite firearm. Stated in posts above are some excellent comments regarding others wisdom on the topic.
 
If you are skilled enough to shoot a .38 snubnose J-frame well, you can easily master most any handgun. J-frames are my favorite if I was going to carry a handgun, but after fifty+ years, I'm still trying to become really proficient with one at 25 yards.
Your technique is apparently all wrong. At 25 yards with a snubbie you need to throw the snubbie at the target. :)

I worked with a young man, who was a video gun person, he claimed that he had a friend that could hit a single serving Coke bottle at a hundred yards, every time, with a two inch snubbie. The part of his statement that I found the hardest to believe is that he acutally had a friend. ;)
 
Only you know what’s best in your current environment and the way you dress.

Do to the crazy environment I live in, I sold off my J frames and 380 mouse guns.

I pocket carry a Glock 43 during warm weather and a Glock 48 in cooler weather. Always an extra mag.

In my opinion, I have gained a more effective caliber and lost nothing in return.
I am on the list of those who dress to carry. I am sick of golf shirts every day and would like to have a tuck-in button up, but that is what I wear to carry my pistol.
 
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