signed into law: no permit required - concealed carry in Az

[mgo]

Ariz. law to allow concealed weapons without permit

"PHOENIX - Republican Gov. Jan Brewer on Friday signed into law a bill making Arizona the third state allowing people without a permit to carry a concealed weapon.

The bill takes effect 90 days after the current legislative session ends. That likely will put the effective date in July or August."

"Alaska and Vermont now do not require permits to carry concealed weapons"

 

[Big Foot]

Thanks for the heads-up and information...She has my vote....

 

[Erich]

Yay! AZ just took the lead from TX as a place I'd like to retire . . .

 

[mgo]

Yay! AZ just took the lead from TX as a place I'd like to retire . . .

Yes, and just remember who she replaced...our beloved "Nappy"!

 

[Erich]

Who grew up right here in ABQ . . .

 

[jkc]

"Yay! AZ just took the lead from TX as a place I'd like to retire . . ."

Sorry, AZ is closed to any further legal immigration.
It's really hot for months on end.
The scenery is bland and boring, we are infested with snakes and scorpions and venomous lizards.
You wouldn't like it here.
I hear parts of Texas are pretty nice...

 

[Gary Slider]

New Law goes into effect sometime in July. Depends on when Legislature ends. One quirk in the law. AZ will still issue permits exactly as in the past. Same process if Residents want to get one. Those who have a permit from AZ or any state will be able to carry into Restaurants that serve alcohol. If you don't have a permit and carry under the Constitutional Carry it is illegal to carry into a place that serves alcohol. So far that is the only difference I can find in there new law about carrying with a permit or without one. These type of things in the law drive me crazy. Laws are tough enough to read and understand to stay within the law then they do something like this. Don't know why.

 

[A10]

Thank GOD for states that still believe in the Constitution, the rights of the people, and beleive that freedom is a right and a responsibility. JAN BREWER FOR PRESIDENT!!!!!!!!!!

 

[CowboyKen]

New Law goes into effect sometime in July. Depends on when Legislature ends. One quirk in the law. AZ will still issue permits exactly as in the past. Same process if Residents want to get one. Those who have a permit from AZ or any state will be able to carry into Restaurants that serve alcohol. If you don't have a permit and carry under the Constitutional Carry it is illegal to carry into a place that serves alcohol. So far that is the only difference I can find in there new law about carrying with a permit or without one. These type of things in the law drive me crazy. Laws are tough enough to read and understand to stay within the law then they do something like this. Don't know why.

And, to further confuse things, if you have a permit you MUST carry that permit if you are carrying concealed or you are in violation of the law.

Ken

 

[Gary Slider]

Ken, Correct. Nothing has changed when it comes to issuing permits/licenses under the new law. If you have a permit/license you have to carry it.

 

[ENGINE18]

It's a great day! As to retiring in Arizona, jkc is correct; nothing but hundreds of miles of nothing here and 110 in the shade all year!

I wonder if when my CCW permit expires do I need a new one or just carry; probably, huh?

 

[enfield]

"Yay! AZ just took the lead from TX as a place I'd like to retire . . ."

Sorry, AZ is closed to any further legal immigration.
It's really hot for months on end.
The scenery is bland and boring, we are infested with snakes and scorpions and venomous lizards.
You wouldn't like it here.
I hear parts of Texas are pretty nice...

There's lots of land available out around Van Horn, TX.

 

[flop-shank]

Awesome News!!!!

God bless Arizona!!!!!

Congratulations to all my friends who reside in that great state!

 

[oldman45]

I am glad it happened but sure would love to read the wording of the law.

 

[FirebirdV8]

It's a great day! As to retiring in Arizona, jkc is correct; nothing but hundreds of miles of nothing here and 110 in the shade all year!

I wonder if when my CCW permit expires do I need a new one or just carry; probably, huh?

I plan on keeping my permit. It will still allow me to skip the NICS check when buying a gun and go into other states that recognize AZ's CCW while carrying. If you don't plan on travelling a lot it may not be worth it to keep.

If you don't like the heat Northern Arizona is always an option. We just got some snow last week and it doesn't get nearly as hot here. Plus you can live next to the big hole in the ground.

 

[Poohgyrr]

Congrats for AZ!
Hmmmmm. Is a side effect going to be that AZ crooks move? And you know, I like wearing cargo shorts and polo shirts. Hehehe...

And I hope you guys fly the US flag out front. It just might seem a little bit bigger and brighter these days.

 

[yaktamer]

I am glad it happened but sure would love to read the wording of the law.

Go to the Arizona legilature's website under "bills." The haven't updated the site to show the bill under "as signed by governor" yet, but I believe the Senate Engrossed version is the final version. It's SB 1108. Assuming that people are correct that the bill makes it illegal not to carry a permit if you have one, I expect they will pass a "clean up" version either later this session or next year.

 

[Capt Steve]

The local Tuscon paper reported today that one of the provisions of the new law requires anyone carrying concealed (permit or not), must disclose to to LEO's that they are carrying. I'm not sure what the penalty is for failing to disclose but nothing changes for me. I have my permit, will renew it, and will always disclose if I am carrying. Every LEO I have spoken with appreciates full disclosure, as in no rude surprises. I still have mixed emotions about the new law as many will carry without having a clue about their rights and responsibilities when carrying. They will however find out in one big hurry when the SHTF. As our instructor pointed out "Every bullet you fire comes with several lawyers attached." It should be interesting here in Arizona when the law takes effect this summer.

 

[oldman45]

Ok guys, help me out here. Something is not right in Denmark.

Are you saying that ANYONE can now carry a concealed handgun? That means those with a violent history of domestic abuse, criminal convictions and such can legally carry a firearm?

If this is correct, then I would have a problem with that. There are those on parole or probation that are not allowed to be in possession of a firearm but the state is going to say EVERYONE can carry.

The law, as I read and appreciate, says a person with a permit gets into some type legal trouble and his permit is suspended and he may not carry until the person is found not guilty in court. Yet the law does not make such a distinction for those that do not have a permit.

I am sorry but as a honest citizen and a member of LE, I do not want just anyone to be armed. Many people do not need to have quick access to firearms. Many people do not need any access to a firearm. When the law says ANY, that means those not qualified by law to get a permit can now carry.

Louisiana has a large homicide problem. We have people killed in my parish almost daily. We have shootings every night, often times multiple shootings. These are done by people not having criminal records but unable to control their tempers. We have people buying guns and with zero training, they let youthful family members have access to the guns and then instead of fist fights, there is a shooting. We have jealous husbands buying guns for no other reason than to shoot the so called lover of their wives.

If Louisiana allowed everyone to carry concealed then we would have more deaths than we do now. I will agree that some people need killing but this law can create a whole new set of legal problems. Louisiana has open carry now but most will not carry openly due to past history but if they could carry concealed, they would.

Agreed, I may be misreading the law but if I am, then an Assistant District Attorney is as well.

If someone is legally unable to own a firearm but is carrying concealed and an LEO stops him, is the LEO going to have to run a background check on the guy to determine if he is breaking a law by carrying?

Can someone tell me if we are missing something?

 

[Bullzaye]

Yes, you're missing something.

The new law allows citizens who are 21 years or older and are legally allowed to own a gun to carry a concealed firearm, without a permit, in AZ.

For anyone who has a domestic abuse conviction, or any other criminal conviction that prevents them from owning a firearm...this law certainly does not reverse that situation.

The rank and file LEOs in AZ are FOR this new law. They recognize (and have publicly stated) that the best partner they have in trying to prevent crime is an armed citizenry.

The notion that allowing everyone to carry concealed would result in more deaths is the exact nonsense that anti-rights advocates spouted ad nauseum prior to every CCW law being passed in this country...yet it has never come to pass.

Freedom can sometimes be a dangerous thing. I'd rather live in freedom and accept a small risk, than be completely assured of my safety, living in a padded cell.

Tim