Six Marines Killed

God Bless them and their families.
Semper Fi, Devil Dogs.
 
I'm confused. Was this a friendly fire terrible accident that killed our Marines and some Frenchmen?
 
I'm confused. Was this a friendly fire terrible accident that killed our Marines and some Frenchmen?

The marines we're killed in a helicopter accident/crash. The French lost theirs in an unrelated attack same time frame. So now the French are wanting to withdraw, pending some sort of guarantee that they won't lose people. Something they have a good track record of doing. Dropping weapons and running i mean.
 
The French were training--or at least attempting to train--Afghan army soldiers when a Taliban infiltrator cut loose on them. The French were unarmed (in a war zone, no less), took 4 KIAs and 15 WIAs.

Sort of reminds you of the old saying, "Life is tough; it's tougher when you're stupid."

Not that French politicians really care any more about losing soldiers than ours do...but if they wanted a reason to cut and run they have it now.
 
I was actually impressed by the French during my last deployment. They acted like real soldiers and despite some serious blood spilling, they stayed the course. No Franco-phile, just saying...
Mike
 
People tend to be in more danger when politicians get involved.
They have the audacity to think that war really does have rules.
Badges?---We don't need no steekin badges.
Blessings
 
May they all rest in peace.
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Why is France in Afganistan??? Quick, ship them some weapons to throw down and a ticket home. No mention by the French of our brave Marines dying. Go figure.

De Oppresso Liber

The marines we're killed in a helicopter accident/crash. The French lost theirs in an unrelated attack same time frame. So now the French are wanting to withdraw, pending some sort of guarantee that they won't lose people. Something they have a good track record of doing. Dropping weapons and running i mean.
I seem to remember a little Corsican that got a lot out of French troops. As I recall, it took an alliance of all the major powers in europe to defeat France.......

In WW I, the French had over 150,000 troops killed at Verdun and killed almost as many Germans. The siege/battle lasted almost all of 1916. The French held without any significant participation of allied troops. The Germans never took Verdun.

Fast forward to WW II and try to remember that the British had an army pushed into the sea along with the French at Dunkirk.
Also remember that the US and Britain could not hold much ground in Asia early in the war. Remember that Phillipines thing?

France suffered greatly during the occupation, but many resisted bravely. The partisans did what they could to harm the Germans, aid the allies, and were instrumental in repatriating many downed allied airmen to fight again. Many French units fought throughout the war under De Gaulle and others.
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I was actually impressed by the French during my last deployment. They acted like real soldiers and despite some serious blood spilling, they stayed the course. No Franco-phile, just saying...
Mike
Thanks for stating that.

I do not have a problem with disliking the policies and positions taken by the french government in the preceding decades. However, one must realize that most countries will always do what they deem best for them.

I DO have a problem with general french bashing.
Labelling them all as incompetent cowards is an insult to any French man-at-arms who ever did his duty. It is also an insult to any level of historical intelligence.
I would hate for OUR troops to be judged and labelled according to the quality of OUR government and politicians. Government policies and the politicians of a country can be a very different thing from the quality of the troops.
 
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There were a lot of French military on Kandahar Airfield, an air force unit, plus a lot of army trainers. They were facing the same dangers that the rest of us had. I often told the new people into the camp that all of us were a target.
I flew quite a bit on the CH-53 with the marines while at KAF and the helocopters were in great condition and with top notch crews. I hope they determine what caused the helo to crash. My prayers go to all of the families of these men who are trying to bring peace to that war ravaged country.
 
Anyone who puts on a uniform to defend the United States is a hero.

Some make it back in one piece to join their earthly families and some are called back to join their Father in Heaven.
 
Thx for your answer Mr Lee Jarret. Very nice and accurate "mise au point".
Merci to Mr Peyton too.
This soldiers died without fighting, they were not armed and just resting.
Sad.
R.
 
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