What dies are you using? Specifically how are you crimping?
As I mentioned above. if it is the LFCD it is not your crimp. it will not over crimp a taper crimp.(unless you have your seating die set wrong and have it crimping also)
Slide locked - what am I doing wrong ?
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What dies are you using? Specifically how are you crimping?
As I mentioned above. if it is the LFCD it is not your crimp. it will not over crimp a taper crimp.(unless you have your seating die set wrong and have it crimping also)
OK,I do not know about those as to over crimping. But if the die body is set to far in than yes there could be excessive crimp and perhaps cause the problem, But as you stated if it was just one out of 500 then it could just be a fluke, I am still of the belief you had a too long a OAL
Good luck and hope the rest work out OK
Good luck and hope the rest work out OK
I don't think I have ever over crimped a 9mm so much that the mouth would go past the chamber step, even crimping to .373 or maybe even .372 they didn't slip in. As I mentioned above, I have had several LTC bullets stick in the lands due to not being seated in far enough. Some even pulled the bullet when putting the edge of the slide front on the shoot house to get enough pushing force to unstick it. My bet is on the olgive sticking from a too long OAL.
As for the FTF, what about the possibility primer not fully seated? The initial FP strike would have been cushioned and not fired.
As for the FTF, what about the possibility primer not fully seated? The initial FP strike would have been cushioned and not fired.
Good pictures... Its hard to really tell if it should be a hair further in or not, due to angles but its close. I wouldn't be surprised if it might seat in a little further yet. I'd keep that dummy aside and make up another at 1.06 and see if it sets any further in. It should fall out without any shaking. Remember you are dropping it in lightly where the slide is going to ram it home hard, so if there is any contact, it will engage the lands. Also put some black sharpie in the bullet radius and see if there are any contact marks.
I just noticed that bullet doesn't look like it has much more shank available for seating any deeper. Dunno if you will get .02 more out of it before the olgive radius starts.
I just noticed that bullet doesn't look like it has much more shank available for seating any deeper. Dunno if you will get .02 more out of it before the olgive radius starts.
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OK, I've adjusted my dies again today (didn't make any ammo, just empty case and bullet). Is this too deep seating ? I still have to shake barrel a little for "round" to fall out...
If you have to shake it it is too long. Keep seating it a fraction at a time until it just falls out on it's own. It only takes a slight difference between go and no go. Don't forget it has to be crimped doing that test,
Pictures are great and answer so many things.
I feel like an idiot, just looked again through my Lyman manual and noticed they provide different data depending on bullet profile and right next to RN profile bullet Lyman says OAL 1.065" that's the number I came down after tons of "plunk" tests 
Anyway thanks a lot guys I've learned something new anyway 
Guess RTFM does come handy from time to time
Anyway thanks a lot guys I've learned something new anyway Guess RTFM does come handy from time to time
When all else fails... read the manual.
Now just for fun and a little bit of understanding....
Measure the avg. OAL of the bullet and the avg. OAL of the sized cases then add them together and subtract the oal of a loaded round. (take the average of 10 items) That should tell you how deep your bullet is seated. if it is between .20 & .30 you should be ok, if deeper than .30 or so, then watch closer than normal for pressure signs.
Now just for fun and a little bit of understanding....
Measure the avg. OAL of the bullet and the avg. OAL of the sized cases then add them together and subtract the oal of a loaded round. (take the average of 10 items) That should tell you how deep your bullet is seated. if it is between .20 & .30 you should be ok, if deeper than .30 or so, then watch closer than normal for pressure signs.
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READ THE MANUAL, REALLY, READ THE MANUAL! Oh no, not that!
I'm glad you found the answer to your problem. Don't feel bad, sometimes the answer is right in front of us but we don't see it. Remember the old saying, "sometimes you can't see the forest for the trees"...
I'm glad you found the answer to your problem. Don't feel bad, sometimes the answer is right in front of us but we don't see it. Remember the old saying, "sometimes you can't see the forest for the trees"...
Did anyone mention they might be to long??
Manual?? We don't need no stinking manual!
Manual?? We don't need no stinking manual!
How in the world can they be TOO LONG if they passed the dreaded "Plunk" test....as mentioned.
Boy I'm glad this wet dream is over with.........
Congratulations...........you guys get a Gold star.
Boy I'm glad this wet dream is over with.........
Congratulations...........you guys get a Gold star.
It has been a tough row to hoe. It's amazing how much band width can be expended when one look or actual seeing the damn thing could solve something (not say just this thread) anything.
The Smurfs should be jumping for joy!!
The Smurfs should be jumping for joy!!
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Guess RTFM does come handy from time to time
This should be the "sticky-to-end-all-stickys".
