Slow Fire/15 rnds/25 yds/10 min

[SW CQB 45]

I am planning on attending a LE Shoot in two months and on the rules, its show the pistol course with stage 1 being

25yds, 10 min, 15 rnds

I recall doing this course yearsssssssss ago and of course did horribly.

What is the key here to maximize my time (10 min) and yet be effective and accurate.

I will do my best on the accuracy part. it will be a slow fire target and it will be fresh so I wont have any advantage of seeing a group of holes to aid my in lining up my sights.

thanks in advance

 

[MKT]

Sounds like it might be based on the Bullseye course of fire.

I can't offer much help here as I have only shot Bullseye once while training with the AMU at Ft Benning. Try as I might, I could only use about 5 minutes for the 10 shots in 10 minute stage. The real Bullseye pros use a chunk of their 1 minute per shot in their shot ritual and if they can't steady enough to take the shot they go back to the rest position and start over again. Remember to ignore your arc of motion, keep applying steady straight rearward pressure on the trigger and let the shot break on it's own, don't help it go off.

Your course is slightly quicker paced at 15 shots in 10 minutes, but the same principals apply.

Now for a funny part of our time at AMU. We were all amazed at what the Unit members could do one handed at 50 yards and the Unit members were amazed at what we could do at 7 and 15 yards with only 20 seconds for 12 rounds and a reload. They couldn't believe we could cover a silver dollar sized spot in the time we had. We also demonstrated our 50 yard line stage for them, again to their amazement, holding the 10 ring for 24 shots from four positions in the given 165 seconds. Definitely different disciplines, both require training and practice.

 

[SW CQB 45]

Mkt.....u still in Vegas?

Thanks 4 the reply.

Since I will likely not be able to see the scoring ring (x or 10) and will be a guess as holding center....

Anyone got any tricks or advice for this hold?

I need to order some B16 targets

 

[Jellybean]

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[boatbum101]

Don't know how good your eyes are , but for me sub-6 o'clock is much easier for me to maintain . Set your sights so you can hold on the bottom( white , not the black bull ) of 25yd SF target & have your POI the Xring . SF you have all the time in the world . If you don't like what you see put the gun DOWN & start over . Get you some targets & train at maintaining sight alignment & trigger control . Focus on the front sight & using the trigger pull it through the rear sight to your eye . For grins flip the target over & shoot at the blank side . I think you'll be amazed at how small your group is with the bull out of the equation . With no target to look at , focus is on front sight & trigger control as it should be regardless if there's a target or not .

 

[SW CQB 45]

the gun I was planning on using was a fixed sight M65. I will have to hold POA which is center of black.

My M14-5 need trigger smoothing (action job). Maybe I could get that one running and practice with prior to the match.

JB, I printed out the B16 link, and its on a single sheet (8.5X11) paper. is this the actual size of a B16?

 

[toz]

The advice offered by Boatbum 101 is very good. Shooting Bullseye style competition is really very simple: Focus on the front sight and its 'sight alignment' with the rear sight; pull the trigger straight back without disturbing the aforementioned 'sight alignment'; bingo, you've shot a ten or a nine depending on your 'wobble' for that day.

If you, look at the sights/look at the target, look at the sights/look at the target, look at the sights/ look at the target...........you're screwed. Because you'll end up 'snatching at a 10' (as you see the bullseye drift by and mate up, momentarily, with your sight alignment) and, in all likelihood, your shot will go low left (if you're a right hand shooter).

The procedure is a very meditative one. Look at the front sight and its alignment to the rear sight (seen as a blur in the foreground) to the exclusion of ALL else. Concentrate like hell on keeping the sights aligned and allow the 'straight back trigger pull' to occur almost in the background of your mind. Because your attention/mental focus is on the front sight and sight alignment the shot should break as a surprise.

Stance, breathing, head position, elbow and wrist tensioning........are all part of 'practicing'.

Hope some of this helps, and let us know how it all turns out.

Bill

 

[SW CQB 45]

thanks for the advice.

I need to start pulling straight back.

my hand and finger size (3X), I dont realize I am pushing left.

 

[Jellybean]

The site says they should print to actual size, but printer settings may vary, and unfortunately our printer is DOA. But I do have a B-16 target on hand and the black dot measures right about 5.5" to the outer edges of the 7 ring.

Depending on how well timed and the condition of your S&W revolver you might be able to hear or even feel a couple clicks as you pull the trigger. This is the cylinder stop striking the cylinder, then dropping into their recesses. Ideally there should be a slight lapse between the last click and the hammer falling. With practice and patience you can train yourself to start your focusing, breathing, sight alignment and etc. at that last click instead of trying to maintain it throughout the entire trigger pull. It makes quite a bit of difference if you can master it.

As the other posters have said it's all about your basics; grip, stance, sight alignment, breathing, trigger pull and etc. Shooting for accuracy is a whole lot more than just fun, it gives you the foundation for any other type of handgun shooting. Best of luck and have fun.

 

[MKT]

Mkt.....u still in Vegas?

Left yesterday at 1330 hrs , arrived Sacramento at 0430 this morning (no "tired" face).

Posted a 1475 x 84

 

[SW CQB 45]

Left yesterday at 1330 hrs , arrived Sacramento at 0430 this morning (no "tired" face).

Posted a 1475 x 84

WOW

 

[K-9]

You might check out Brian Zins | 10X . The Marine Corps training manual is listed there. Along with some training targets you can print out.

Brian knows a bit about shooting.

Who says you have to use all the time that you're allowed?

We can talk B-E if you like. Contact me off-forum.