Smart guns

[Sconnie]

They hooked me. I don't normally watch 60 Minutes anymore but I caught a tease on one story about a smart shotgun. Lesley Stahl demonstrating the shooting of a shotgun connected to a smart chip in a ring. In the tease there is a mention of mass shootings so I had to watch to see how they could draw a connection of a smart gun to reducing mass shootings. Despite the clear fact that most if not all of the recent shootings have been by the legal owner of the gun. Making smart gun technology a mute point.

The story starts with mass shootings and gun violence. And only their owner can fire them. Touch pad scanners on an AR. Oh gee, Lesley can't fire it. Finally they did briefly mention that the recent mass shootings would not have been impacted.

Then they talk about it as though cops would be saved. Bad guys getting a hold of their firearm and not being able to kill the cop with his/her own gun. Of course, the story would have you believe that the technology would not fail the cop....

And they delighted in showcasing the one gun store owner who said he would sell smart guns and his Youtube rant in front of his guns with his whiskey bottle at his side when idiots on the Internet made threats against him. Yea, he is their go to spokesman?

Of course they bash the NRA. And the NJ law comes up. If smart guns are sold in any State the NJ law kicks in. It was interesting that the legislator who got that law started is advocating for a repeal and replace. The severe anti smart gun feelings being driven by those NJ residents is hindering the development and sale of smart guns so she now wants to only require that gun dealers carry at least one smart gun as an option. At least to start off that is. (this will have to suffice as an evil grin)

Interesting that Bill Clinton and S&W came up. From the way it sounded the smart gun stuff started then but it only resulted in that unfortunate lock on S&W revolvers.

Myself I could not see buying a gun with smart gun technology and IF it would be just an option for the market to decide that would be fine but you know the next step is to require it as another "fix" for the evil gun advocates misusing their firearms.

The story was actually pretty good and I know the video is up on the CBS website. They make it sound like a miracle cure to a problem and the young folks in Silicon Valley would love it. Duh, more tech and chips means more business for them.

 

[WR Moore]

Lo many years ago, when the smart gun idea first surfaced, a lab at White Sands got stuck with the feasability study and invited comment. I called the guy in charge and, surprisingly spent an hour on the phone with him about the subject. He noted that the message from everyone who called was to point out all the factors that mitigate against the idea in the real world. He summed it up as "keep your hands off my service pistol"!

I worked with biometric stuff for over 15 years. Besides the time delays for processing (way longer than the time needed to draw and fire), we saw inability to read a hand due to grease, hand lotion, band-aids, sweat and sleeves of garments. That's ignoring the possiblity of other hand use, spouse or other authorized user. Add in breakage due to recoil shock and it's an unworkable concept-at least at this point in time.

 

[TOM BECKWITH]

Breath detectors for cars have been around for some time, but no one has pushed for them or one driver per car.

 

[Rustyt1953]

My guns are already smarter than I am.

 

[Irn-Bru]

Maybe they can try them out on the police and military first, see how they go

 

[Rockets]

You guys are killing me... [emoji28]

 

[swsig]

Smart guns won't work for me. I can cross off biometric gun safes, too. When they attempted to take my fingerprints for my concealed handgun license, multiple attempts with two different electronic fingerprint machines failed to get a legible set of prints from me. Apparently, I have no fingerprints. I guess I should have been a professional burglar, they never would have caught me, bwahahaha!

P.S. I got my license anyway. Why? Because I live in Texas. In Texas, if you have fingerprints, you have to submit them to get a license. But if you don't have fingerprints, that's OK, you can get a license anyway. Gotta love a place like that.

 

[NYlakesider]

You guys are killing me... [emoji28]

There is a better chance of being killed by your so called smart gun if if fails to fire when you need it!

 

[Kernel Crittenden]

Seeing Lesley Stahl shoot the shot gun the first time was hilarious. Just what you'd expect. The second time she shot it she actually looked like she knew what she was doing. I thought it was a positive thing to see an uber lib icon like Stahl on TV shooting in a way that looked safe, fun, and inviting. At the same time the story took their jabs at the NRA and gun owners. It is CBS News, after all.

 

[American1776]

Of course even IF the biometrics technology can account for the more then a dozen simple problems (grease or blood on the hand, wearing gloves, etc), there will ALWAYS be the concern about EMP attack/disaster that would effectively turn off everyone's defensive firearms.

A simple computer virus or hack-attack could effectively disarm all the good people.

Smart guns: NO THANK YOU.

 

[Comrad]

Look at how well received the IL was in S&W revolvers, this smart gun stuff should be a real hit.

Time for gun sales figures to go through the roof again.

Get em while the gettin's good.

It's not going to get any easier.

 

[vt_shooter]

I'll think about buying into the concept of "smart guns" when the secret service trusts them enough to use them exclusively to protect the occupants of 1600 Pennsylvania avenue. 'Never happen. And the captain is no more valuable than this sailor.

 

[pharmer]

I'd pay some big money for a "smart shotgun" that would only fire when I was on target, even if I had to wear the "secret decoder ring". I tried "sporting clays" a ways back and never did better than 6 in 10. Joe

 

[shell627]

My guns are already smart.They have never jumped out of the safe or holster and shot anything on there own.

 

[the ringo kid]

I'll stick with dumb guns thanx. Mine never hurt a soul, unless said soul was barefoot and it fell slamming his big toe?

 

[ISCS Yoda]

I'll stick with dumb guns thanx. Mine never hurt a soul, unless said soul was barefoot and it fell slamming his big toe?

Been there, done that, OUCH!

So, hmmm, pas the smart gun laws and then - ban all oo the 300 million non-smart guns in America today?

Yeah, that's a plan not headed for anywhere except in California, NY, and NJ. maybe Connecticut and Illinois......maybe....

So smart it's dumb..........

 

[gregintenn]

We lovingly refer to flashlights as "dead battery holders". A dead battery in a flashlight is an inconvenience. A dead battery in a smart gun could be, well, deadly.

 

[FAS1]

I missed the program, but I was aware of NJ considering a change in the law that will allow dumb guns to still be sold along side of smart guns when commercially available. The anti-gun crowd figured out they need to do it one step at a time. Just think about how many people trust biometrics to store their HD gun. The gun being available to choose would be the next step especially with the millennials that don't know life without electronic gadgets. No biometrics for me personally for anything that relates to self defense.

 

[IAM Rand]

Smart guns and smart cars like the Volvo are made for one type of person, the dumb ones. I am not dumb so I will still with the dumb cars and dumb guns thanks.