Smart Guns

[Puller]

I've read several articles lately about personalized smart guns, which can be fired only by verified users. Reportedly a company in Boise has introduced a 9mm for investors and shareholders in the company. There is another company in Kansas that says law enforcement agents are beta testing its product.

Makes me wonder how these so called smart guns will be received by the market. When Smith & Wesson pledged in 1999 to promote smart gun development, among other gun safety measures in an agreement with the U.S. government, the National Rifle Association sponsored a boycott that led to a drop in revenue.

One article I read said that the new 9mm smart gun is targeting the market of first time gun buyers. It integrated both a fingerprint reader and a near-field communication chip activated by a phone app, plus a PIN pad. The fingerprint reader unlocks the gun in microseconds, but since it may not work when wet or in other adverse conditions, the PIN pad is there as a backup. The near-field communication signal would act as a secondary backup, enabling the gun as quickly as users can open the app on their phones.

A few years ago a German company put a smart .22 caliber pistol on the market, but it was pulled from stores after hackers discovered a way to remotely jam the gun's radio signals and, using magnets, fire the gun when it should have been locked.

I'm not on board with smart gun technology. We see every day how the technology we have grown to depend on in other aspects of our lives and the chaos it creates when it fails. Problem is, the younger generations who have been indoctrinated in public schools that guns are bad and readily accept technology will probably accept smart guns without so much as a blink of an eye.

 

[Old cop]

In the 1980s a sheriff’s department in our area experimented w/smart technology for their service revolvers. It was a chip under the grips and the deputies wore a ring on their shooting hand. The experiment was abandoned after a short trial but I can’t be sure why. I do know the deputies did not like the idea of their weapons being part of this experiment.

 

[RCL-09]

A solution in search of a problem...

 

[clang444]

Hell I don’t even like the internal lock…

 

[max503]

I like the idea of a chip/marking/etc on each and every bullet.

 

[steelslaver]

Don't need smart guns near as much as we need smart gun owners.

If man made it someone can circumvent it. Criminals will not buy smart guns and if they steal on they will disable the smart part. If you don't think so look at the number of cars that ''require" a proximity key to run that get stolen.

 

[oysterer]

some jack... trying to be smart. This is strictly geared towards states that require sales of those things (as soon as available - so these laws read). There may be even states that will want to limit sales to only these (once available - as the laws read). These are not meant to excite law abiding gun owners or work very well, they are strictly w.. dreams of coastal elite politicians and the VCs catering to them. These will be challenged in courts and make 2A lawyers loads of money too.

 

[K Frame Keith]

I’ve never found the need to buy a gun with a key hole and I doubt I’ll need one with a computer chip.

 

[oysterer]

I’ve never found the need to buy a gun with a key hole and I doubt I’ll need one with a computer chip.

understood...it all changes when the government and their henchmen decide that those are the onces you should be wanting... for a lack of any others. Remember the UK, disarmament in 1996 I think it was

 

[03hemi]

Just put it over there with my Smartwatch, yeah the one I'd never own.

 

[ISCS Yoda]

Any thinking gun owner will laugh at this. Any non-thinking gun owner, and there will be plenty, will clamor for it. When the first one fails to operate correctly and the owner loses a gunfight the demand will settle down. A LOT!

 

[gregintenn]

I’d prefer smart judges and smart jurors.

 

[Sevens]

In the 1980s a sheriff’s department in our area experimented w/smart technology for their service revolvers. It was a chip under the grips and the deputies wore a ring on their shooting hand. The experiment was abandoned after a short trial but I can’t be sure why. I do know the deputies did not like the idea of their weapons being part of this experiment.

I remember that and it made use of a magnet (the ring) and a ferrous part, it wasn’t a computer chip.

 

[mikerjf]

Don’t forget that such a gun could be built to require a wi-fi connection, and a login to ATF to verify the gun is legally yours, before allowing it to fire.

Of course there’s some network lag, as it checks GPS coordinates against all LEO in the area, to make sure you aren’t firing at one of them. Then a cross-check against the covid tracking database, engaging in a conflict with someone who has been exposed might also expose you, and you’d both have to quarantine for whatever the current number of days supplied from the CDC’s site is. Advancing into an encounter with someone when your phone has warned you they are contagious could well carry penalties beyond shooting each other.

Finally the gun will fire, and each bullet’s serial number is logged and the bullet’s lease from the ammo company is terminated, with the usage fee automatically deducted from your bitcoin account. Along with the Public Risk tax, the Public Defender system tax, a small fee for Noise Abatement, and a refundable $100,000 bond against any legal action.

Yeah. Smart.

 

[Chuck24]

Tell the burglar to pull up a chair and make yourself comfortable while I try to pull up my gun app

 

[cd228]

I remember that and it made use of a magnet (the ring) and a ferrous part, it wasn’t a computer chip.

I believe you are referring to the Magna Trigger. Tarnhelm Supply Co. still lists it on their website. The referals on the website are all from the mid to late 90s.