Smith & Wesson CSX?

[mscampbell2734]

Just saw on GunBroker they are listed well below MSRP. Sort of refreshing to see no price gouging.

 

[wbraswell]

I like it so far. I'm sure there will be a couple of bugs to get worked out or changed. I've never liked DA/SA actions. I want one trigger pull on an auto pistol. I trust cocked and locked way more than anything with no safety. It's new, but not ugly, to me. The little 938 looks like a toy carved out of a wood block. I want a better trigger, maybe the first ones are for California.lol. I want to handle one. This might replace my Shield for EDC.

 

[Tiribulus]

Here's another.
[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKPl_Jw0fKc&t=935s[/ame]

 

[LVSteve]

I like it so far. I'm sure there will be a couple of bugs to get worked out or changed. I've never liked DA/SA actions. I want one trigger pull on an auto pistol. I trust cocked and locked way more than anything with no safety. It's new, but not ugly, to me. The little 938 looks like a toy carved out of a wood block. I want a better trigger, maybe the first ones are for California.lol. I want to handle one. This might replace my Shield for EDC.

Why not ditch the safety, spur hammer and trigger dingus and fit the 3953 trigger system. I think there are a good number on here who would go for that.

 

[The Last Standing Knight]

I have had a chance to take a look at one up close and personal (No, I did not fire it).

I was not impressed in its current form. It does however have potential if S&W was to act .

First, SA lock in a pocket pistol: carrying a 1911 in condition 1 is fine and dandy...but it is a belt pistol designed for a belt and holster and NOT a "pocket pistol" as the CSX is. IMHO cocked and locked with this pistol is asking for trouble.

My suggestion would be a lockwork like the revolver. You rack a round in the chamber and the hammer safely drops to double action position. The pistol can be manually cocked like a double action revolver for a well-aimed shot, but in operation it would function just like a regular double action revolver in all aspects. It would just be in semi-automatic guise. Also in this form it would supplant the need for a manual safety of any kind.

I either case, it needs to be out a bit and have some bugs and kinks worked out of it. Like I said, potential....but not quite there yet.

 

[ScottN]

I was able to check one out at my LGS today. I liked it a lot. I have medium to large hands and it felt great. Trigger isn't fantastic but was fine. Price tag was 609. It's on my radar to buy once there is more feedback and reviews from normal Joe's. I also want to wait and see if a Performance Center model comes out.

 

[wbraswell]

Why not ditch the safety, spur hammer and trigger dingus and fit the 3953 trigger system. I think there are a good number on here who would go for that.

I don't have any reason to own a DAO pistol.

 

[K Frame Keith]

I don't get the level of hostility for the CSX. High capacity compact, ambidextrous and not poly, what's not to like. I've been watching for a 9mm compact understudy for my 1911. I'll be checking it out.

 

[Paul in Nevada]

I don't get the level of hostility for the CSX. High capacity compact, ambidextrous and not poly, what's not to like. I've been watching for a 9mm compact understudy for my 1911. I'll be checking it out.

For me, it's a 6.5lb pull and a trigger dongle on a SAO pistol.

 

[LVSteve]

For me, it's a 6.5lb pull and a trigger dongle on a SAO pistol.

The TFB reviewer commented that the trigger lightened up considerably with use. Now, I know that is not ideal in today's ammo market, but it suggests that there is nothing fundamentally wrong with the design.

 

[ladder13]

LGS had 3 of them yesterday @549. I doubt they last until Tuesday.

 

[snowman.45]

I got to see and handle one of the CSX pistols at my dealer yesterday. I was rather impressed with it. Fit and finish were good, trigger wasn't bad, and with break-in should be nice. Someone else bought it before I could get my wallet out. I've got one coming next week.

Like others, I would prefer a DA/SA and think the 3913 and 6906/669 were the finest carry gun ever issued by S&W. However, I'm also a 1911 fan, and I can get by with an S/A for now. I generally carry either a Shield Plus or a j-frame with my more relaxed, retired mindset these days, but I'm anxious to get the CSX and run some rounds through it.

 

[Donn]

The internet gun forums are awash with vids on the CSX. No slam, I'm sure it's a fine pistol. What I'm not sure of is what slot S&W's trying to fill? With the Gen 1 and 2 Shields as well as the EZ's already out there, seems to me the CSX is the answer to a question nobody asked.

 

[hkcavalier]

There are reviewers that depend on the gun companies (ads) for revenue. They all love it.

There are the reviewers that depend on their viewers/fans for revenue. They all dislike it, mainly due to the trigger.

I think S&W has a good idea here, but a mushy 6-8lb trigger isn't what the SAO crowd wants. They want manual safeties that make a crisp 4lb trigger feasible and safe.

 

[Bobde1234]

Got one, and it seems solid. Handle is very comfortable, grip material is excellent. Held all the compacts and csx felt most comfortably to me, with Glock 43x a close second. Trigger is excellent, on average of 10 pulls with Lyman gage is 4lb. Sharp break trigger, very little movement. Controls seem well positioned to me. The trigger reset is a little meh, you can feel the trigger bar come off the firing pin safety plunger. Not a show stopper for me as the trigger pull itself feels excellent. The rubber donut on the 12rd msg catches my hand preventing the mag to drop free. But then I saw a S&w rep (Julie Gotlib?) mention to take that off so as to prevent finger pinch when inserting. I tried that and much better. Still can get my pinky on the mag fine, no pinch, and it drops free. All in all seems like a very nice option. Seems to shoot well (only 100 rounds so far). I like that the grip width ar the back strap is pretty close to glock 19 width (28.8mm vs 30.2mm). I like it so far.

 

[TAROMAN]

Late to this party.
Saw the title and expected a new gun for the CSX railroad police.
Maybe CSX will see the name and order some. Or sue for trademark violation.

 

[HCH]

Metal frame, metal slide, hammer fired, high capacity - what's not to like? Oh, I forgot - no lock.

Can someone tell me if the frame is milled, cast, or MIM?

 

[Rolandag2]

Can someone tell me if the frame is milled, cast, or MIM?

Milled, mine has already been fully disassembled. Posted on here


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[Rolandag2]

From the short bit offered, it looks like a direct competitor and lower cost alternative to the Wilson EDCx9.

I could see my best gun bro grabbing one of these, so this kinda excites me just for him. I bet he will be on the early QC staff (unpaid of course!) for this one!

I'll report back if that happens.

No competitor, I have both and shot both today and my edcx9 will hit the exactly where I aim at 10 yards and the csx will not, at best it's a 3 yards gun anything further than that your praying that they hit or at least my gun didn't do all that well, I also shot a original shield 9 and that was also spot on at 7 yards


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[Rolandag2]

Sear and hammer are 1911esc. I really love the action and the trigger is really nice compared to other polymer shield guns. The slide and frame fit is really nice as well

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[Jimmyjones]

That was the gun I was looking for when I got my Firestar Plus 30 years ago.
Called my LGS, they have some on order, I get the first one they receive.

Got my CSX, needed a holster, looked in the holster box and found the Don Hume Firestar holster I retired when I stopped carrying the Stars (after they closed).
... and it fits like it was made for it. Guess my prior statement was more true than I knew!

 

[smoothshooter]

I got to fondle one a little bit a couple of weeks ago just before another customer bought it.
I kind of liked it.
It is a little smaller than I expected.

 

[Nakanokalronin]

Every review I have seen references the 1911 style operation. It's a SAO pistol with a thumb safety. Of course it's going to be compared to a 1911.

A hair wider to make it DA/SA would be welcome. The CS9 wasn't that wide.

It also uses a single stack magazine.

 

[ladder13]

Big Raleigh show next weekend, I'll check it out.

 

[snowman.45]

A second CSX came into the FFL and I bought it. I've put about 100 rounds through it and I really like it. The trigger is a little heavy for a single action, but seems to be smoothing up. I think it will continue to improve with use. It's accurate, reliable and definitely a smaller profile than my Shield Plus.

 

[N4KVE]

Late to this party.
Saw the title and expected a new gun for the CSX railroad police.
Maybe CSX will see the name and order some. Or sue for trademark violation.

Cant sue for the same name as S&W is not a railroad company. Years ago my Dad ran a candy/juice company for the Fisher brothers. The company was called Fisher Brothers Inc. The labels said FBI Foods. Sure enough my Dad got a letter from the FBI telling them to stop using the name FBI. He politely told them to FO, because they made foods, & were not a LE entity. He never heard from the FBI again. GARY.

 

[sigp220.45]

Cant sue for the same name as S&W is not a railroad company. Years ago my Dad ran a candy/juice company for the Fisher brothers. The company was called Fisher Brothers Inc. The labels said FBI Foods. Sure enough my Dad got a letter from the FBI telling them to stop using the name FBI. He politely told them to FO, because they made foods, & were not a LE entity. He never heard from the FBI again. GARY.

When I was an agent in Louisiana the big garbage removal company was called BFI. I went to a place in Hammond to interview a business owner once. I showed my ID to the front desk girl who went to get the boss. He took a long time to show up and when he finally did he swallowed his gum when I showed him my ID. He said: Helen, you told me it was the BFI man!!

 

[cnj]

I bought a CSX this past weekend. Took it to the range on Tuesday and put 125 rounds through it with no malfunctions what-so-ever (I know that should be expected, but the last 4 pistols I purchased new, 2 Rugers, another Smith, and a Steyr ALL had more than one malfunction the first time out). The gun felt snappy, but that is to be expected out of such a small 9mm. The trigger was a bit heavy, but I'm betting it settles in at around 5.5lbs once all broken in. I'm good with that. The 12 round mag allows better purchase and that helps to absorb recoil a bit more, so I'll order a couple more 12 rounders when they become available. The only thing I really didn't like is that the texturing on the grip is very rough. Maybe that will wear in a bit too over time. Overall, I think the CSX is a winner. Now, IF this new 30 Super Carry cartridge takes off, I'd like to see a CSX in that chambering. Two more rounds, right?

 

[Radny97]

Smith & Wesson CSX?

Picked up a Smith & Wesson CSX on Friday and finally got it to the range today to try it out.

Here's my list of pros and cons:

Pros
- 100% reliable. Ran about 200 rounds through it. Five different brands of factory ammo, and three different handloads. 3 different kinds of hollow points. It ran 100% with zero hiccups or malfunctions.
-Trigger. Some of the online reviewers and YouTube reviews I've seen were critical of the trigger. I strongly disagree. The trigger is amazing. Light and crisp. Best trigger I've ever handled on a gun designed primarily for concealed carry.
- Ergos. For a micro nine the grip is pretty large and very comfortable. The texture on the grip is perfect. Recoil wasn't too snappy for a gun this size and weight.
- Sights. I like the three dot combat sights for carry guns, and it shot to point of aim. Sights are large and easy to acquire.
- Safety. The safety is positive and perfectly positioned to ride the safety when shooting like a 1911. I love that you can cycle the slide without having to disengage the safety. Makes for very safe unholstering and unloading when putting it away after carrying it.
- Capacity is awesome obviously.
- I like that the manual says it is specifically rated for +P ammo.
- I don't like to carry striker fired pistols because of how the slide usually extends at least an inch past the back of the grip. My preference for carry is to keep the back of the grip about even with my belt line. So that little to none of the gun is above the belt line. Striker fired guns usually have an inch of slide that extends past the back of the grip, which makes my style of carry more difficult. So I gravitate toward hammer fired guns like this.

Cons
- Slide bite. I have very large meaty hands and I hold my guns very high into the beaver tail. After 200 rounds of mostly really hot ammo, I definitely had some slide bite going on. Probably wouldn't happen to most shooters. But I wouldn't recommend this gun for long range sessions.
-Accuracy. Accuracy was poor. After shooting a few groups and not seeing the groups I'm used to, I set up a rest and sat down and shot two 20 round groups with two different kinds of ammo. I'm an experienced competition shooter capable of 2 inch groups at 25 yards with the right handgun. However, the best I could manage with the CSX was about 5 inches at 15 yards from a rest. That's pretty bad accuracy. Probably sufficient for any carry gun, but it's certainly not a tack driver.


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[photoman]

Picked up a Smith & Wesson CSX on Friday and finally got it to the range today to try it out.


-Accuracy. Accuracy was poor. After shooting a few groups and not seeing the groups I'm used to, I set up a rest and sat down and shot two 20 round groups with two different kinds of ammo. I'm an experienced competition shooter capable of 2 inch groups at 25 yards with the right handgun. However, the best I could manage with the CSX was about 5 inches at 15 yards from a rest. That's pretty bad accuracy. Probably sufficient for any carry gun, but it's certainly not a tack driver.

Yikes! That's a deal breaker right there. I'll keep an eye out and see if others report the same.