Smith & Wesson discusses ammo shortage

[ImDrRich]

as well as strong demand for guns:

Ammo shortage shows no sign of improving: Smith & Wesson | Fox Business

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[JimCunn]

"Smith & Wesson said it shipped nearly 2.5 million units last year, up 70% from 2020".

What does that mean in English?
Last year WAS 2020.

 

[cmj8591]

I'm not sure why this was news. There really wasn't anything in the article that hasn't been said already. Ammo is sparse. There's a ton of new shooters. It will be a while until ammo is back to normal. I guess it was an article aimed at people who don't pay any attention to the gun world.

 

[Chukar60]

Little news, late news.
Actually I am seeing ammo prices in the local classifieds dropping now.
Just today 1000 round cases of 147 gr 9mm, brass cased, Federal subsonic for $580.00.
Couple of days ago there were 1000 round cases of 5.56 brass cased 55 gr fmj for $600. It did not last long, but it was there.
Then today on the way home, the LGS closest to me had on their road sign "all AR15 prices reduced".
The panic has subsided and now we wait for sales to drop off and inventory to build back up. How long will it take? Have no idea.

 

[ISCS Yoda]

Websites that I get email from are constantly selling case loads of ammunition, some of almost reasonably priced and, if I needed a caseload, I'd be all over it. Most of it is foreign but, as I said, if I needed it I'd buy it.

With Remington pumping out ammunition again the supply should eventually improve but never forge that the demand is fueled by millions of new gun owners and the constant tirade against guns by the anti-gunners - you know who they are so I won't get political.

 

[STORMINORMAN]

An "Ultimate Father's Day Special" today offering 525 rounds of copper plated 36gr 22lr: what we used to call a "brick" (with 25 "extra" rounds?) for $159.99... Lost me as a customer: I will never spend another penny there in the future. Different site offered the same bullets for $0.20 each.

I did see 50# 9mm 115gr FMJ in reloadable brass for under $25... Limited quantity.

When primers are again available ammo prices will have gone down: hopefully they won't be like lumber prices (5X+?) or gasoline...?

P.S. I bought a 5,000 round case of significantly better (IMHO) quality 40gr ammo 3 years ago for $229.99 delivered.

 

[Jon651]

as well as strong demand for guns:

Ammo shortage shows no sign of improving: Smith & Wesson | Fox Business

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I read through this article and nearly laughed out loud. Aside from the obvious political slant they tried to put on it, Fox Business is just now learning that gun sales are up 70%? That 75% of buyers had to deal with out-of-stock issues? That 81% said they wanted more ammunition?

That's just too funny! Where have they been for the last year??? How much longer before they announce that Armstrong and Aldrin have landed on the moon?

 

[swagmeister]

Where are all these new handgun purchasers getting enough ammo to train with and then hollowpoints to use for self-defense? Sure there is ammo available at scalping prices and I guess that's where they get it. Great that new gun sales are up but what good is a gun with no ammo. Seems to me a plan to a back door way to institute gun control-no bullets, why buy a gun?

 

[retrieverhunter]

Where are all these new handgun purchasers getting enough ammo to train with and then hollowpoints to use for self-defense? Sure there is ammo available at scalping prices and I guess that's where they get it. Great that new gun sales are up but what good is a gun with no ammo. Seems to me a plan to a back door way to institute gun control-no bullets, why buy a gun?

First, I've been saying for YEARS that if the "powers that be" knew anything at all about guns that they would never utter the words "gun control" ever again and focus on "ammo control". What still baffles me is the number of shooters who only keep a couple boxes on hand and make no effort to stock up even after all the ammo scares of the recent past and are once again on the internet griping about not being able to find ammo or how high the prices are.

Second, many/most of these new/first time gun buyers don't know they need to train. They're just proud of themselves for taking the leap to buy a gun. For most of them, a 50 round box will be a lifetime supply.

 

[cracker57]

As an instructor, its scary to think 7 million new gun owners were able to buy one box of 50 rounds with their new guns, train with 25 rounds and keep the other 25 for protection..Remember these are NEW gun owners never had a gun before and now they think they can protect themselves.
I have one studying under me with deep pockets and he is spending the money to buy ammo at these prices so he can train, he is doing it right but I fear he is one of a kind.

 

[retrieverhunter]

As an instructor, its scary to think 7 million new gun owners were able to buy one box of 50 rounds with their new guns, train with 25 rounds and keep the other 25 for protection..Remember these are NEW gun owners never had a gun before and now they think they can protect themselves.
I have one studying under me with deep pockets and he is spending the money to buy ammo at these prices so he can train, he is doing it right but I fear he is one of a kind.

I think you're being optimistic that many of these new gun buyers will shoot 25 rounds before considering themselves "good to go". It's a case of folks don't know what they don't know.
I would definitely say your new student is the exception and not the rule when it comes to training, but good on him for taking the initiative.

 

[PPS1980]

First, I've been saying for YEARS that if the "powers that be" knew anything at all about guns that they would never utter the words "gun control" ever again and focus on "ammo control". What still baffles me is the number of shooters who only keep a couple boxes on hand and make no effort to stock up even after all the ammo scares of the recent past and are once again on the internet griping about not being able to find ammo or how high the prices are.

Second, many/most of these new/first time gun buyers don't know they need to train. They're just proud of themselves for taking the leap to buy a gun. For most of them, a 50 round box will be a lifetime supply.

Many don't train, but many do. The issue is they have never seen prices other than those we've struggled with for the past year. So, to them ammo has always cost as much as it cost when they went in and bought whatever firearm was left on the shelf. I've seen newbies at the range that shoot all but one magazine of whatever they bought when they bought their new firearm and then load that up in the weapon and leave. They have a loaded weapon at home, but I am surmising no reloads.