carl3989
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45 Colt= Shoots like a 22lr..
With these sights and mild reloads this gun shoots as easily as 22lr. What a joy to shoot.
With these sights and mild reloads this gun shoots as easily as 22lr. What a joy to shoot.
Smiths in 45 Colt Ctg The Ultimate 25 and 625 discussion.Edited June 2014
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ElmerKeith
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Having the choice between a M 25-9 4" and a M 625-5 5" - what would be your choice? (I know, I know - some of you would suggest to take both but that doesn't work so easily in Germany)
What type of front sight was factory installed at the 625-5? Ramp front sight or the squared type?
Does the 625-5 have a round or square butt frame?
Does the 625-5 have all forged parts?
And what about the quality of a 625-6 Mountain gun?
What type of front sight was factory installed at the 625-5? Ramp front sight or the squared type?
Does the 625-5 have a round or square butt frame?
Does the 625-5 have all forged parts?
And what about the quality of a 625-6 Mountain gun?
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Allen-frame
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Wow, that is quite a choice you have there.
The 4'' 25-9 will be a bit shorter and lighter than the 625-5.
Condition is all important so inspect them thoroughly.
The 625-5 Classic 45 Colt is a round butt revolver using all forged
parts, even the thumbpiece.
Good Luck with your decision...
Allen Frame
There was a very nice 6 inch 25-5 at a LGS about a month ago, for $600. Had one of those funky side mount(screwed onto the sideplate) scope mounts on it. Really, I was looking for a 4 inch, but asked the owner if he would deduct the price of the mount and sell it to me for 500. He said no, so I passed.
I woulda had chopped it down to 3-3 1/2 inches and round butted it.
Maybe it's still there, gonna check after the weekend.
I woulda had chopped it down to 3-3 1/2 inches and round butted it.
Maybe it's still there, gonna check after the weekend.
Beautiful revolvers! The .45 Colt is my favorite handgun cartridge and I own but one (yes, only one) model 25. Its a 4" model 25-5 that I bought new in 1986. It is the very last gun that I will ever part with. I also own several Ruger SA 45s and a Marlin 1894. Great thread! Makes me want to spend money, lots of money.
ElmerKeith
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Thank you for this information. The same dealer has a M 625-6 Mountain Gun to sell.
What about all forged parts in this gun?
And what about the issue with the M25s shooting a little bit to high at the common 25 yard distance? According to John Linebaugh this might happen especially with the heavier bullets but even with the common 250-260grainers.
Does the M625-5 and -6 have the same problem?
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Xduper - I bought a 1980 -81 pinned barrel 25-5 LNIB a few weeks ago and was also concerned about possible oversized cylinder throats. I then bought 0.452" & 0.453" plug gauges and found that the .452 fits snugly in each throat and the .453 doesn't fit any. That put my mind at ease.
Feast your eyes upon these beauties!
625-5 SDS
625-6 .45 Colt Mountain
625-5 SDS
625-6 .45 Colt Mountain
ElmerKeith
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What do you think about this one.
O.K., not in it's original condition but not pinned and the serial number starts with BAR followed by four digits.
According to the gunsmith who sells this gun the chamber throats measure .452".
eGun
The others I have in mind are these:
Smith & Wesson - Mod. 625-5 Classic - .45 Colt - Waffen Hansen
Smith & Wesson - Mod. 625-6 Mountain Gun - .45 Colt - Waffen Hansen
And these here I mentioned a few months ago when I suddenly turned to a Ruger NMSBH in 44 Magnum:
Smith & Wesson - Mod. 25-5 - .45 Colt - Waffen Hansen
Smith & Wesson - Mod. 25-9 - .45 Colt - Waffen Hansen
Unfortunately the dealer didn't answer yet to my email-sent question about the chamber throat dimensions especially in the M 25-5.
But here are some pictures of my fling:
O.K., not in it's original condition but not pinned and the serial number starts with BAR followed by four digits.
According to the gunsmith who sells this gun the chamber throats measure .452".
eGun
The others I have in mind are these:
Smith & Wesson - Mod. 625-5 Classic - .45 Colt - Waffen Hansen
Smith & Wesson - Mod. 625-6 Mountain Gun - .45 Colt - Waffen Hansen
And these here I mentioned a few months ago when I suddenly turned to a Ruger NMSBH in 44 Magnum:
Smith & Wesson - Mod. 25-5 - .45 Colt - Waffen Hansen
Smith & Wesson - Mod. 25-9 - .45 Colt - Waffen Hansen
Unfortunately the dealer didn't answer yet to my email-sent question about the chamber throat dimensions especially in the M 25-5.
But here are some pictures of my fling:
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scattershot
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I got another one since my last post, and a fine one it is, too. Model 25-7, model of 1989. Shootin' sonofagun, too.
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ElmerKeith
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What do you think about this one.
O.K., not in it's original condition but not pinned and the serial number starts with BAR followed by four digits.
According to the gunsmith who sells this gun the chamber throats measure .452".
http://www.egun.de/market/item.php?id=4991082
O.K., not in it's original condition but not pinned and the serial number starts with BAR followed by four digits.
According to the gunsmith who sells this gun the chamber throats measure .452".
http://www.egun.de/market/item.php?id=4991082
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haris1
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After the engineering change of pinned barrels with the 25-5, smith and wesson cured the inaccuracies of the 25-5 by reducing the chamber throats since the 45 colt ammo was mainly 452-453 not the 454-455 of old. the reduced throats occurred during the time frame when the change was made so the 25-5 can be a great gun for shooting. Your particular example is very desirable because the Nil grips are worth US $200-250 and the rugged rear sight would go for $75-100 here.There are plenty of the old oversize chamber throats in the 25-5 so measuring is the only true determination.
Great find- enjoy it!!!
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ElmerKeith
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I'm still thinking about to buy it or not. And if not to wait for it's little brother with a 4-inch bbl. or to take the offer from the gun shop in Hamburg, a M 25-9.
I think I have to toss a coin.
I think I have to toss a coin.
spad124
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My 25-5 with a serial number beginning with AUC has .452 throats. Mine holds tight groups.
andyo5
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I have two S&Ws in 45 Colt, a 625-6 with custom patridge front sight and a 25-7. I also have two Ruger Bisleys and a Uberti in 45 Colt. My loads are a 255g RNFP lead bullet over 8.5g of Unique and the 250g Ranier copper washed FP bullet over 9.0g of Unique.
I find the S&Ws in this caliber to be hard on the web of my hand, and I tend to get a blister there which forces me to stop shooting until it heals. I learned to tape my hand before going to the range if I planned to shoot them. But lately I have found a different way to hold these guns that is easier on my hand. With the Bisleys and the SAA, I shoot the same loads with no issues. All of these guns shoot these loads very well.
I find the S&Ws in this caliber to be hard on the web of my hand, and I tend to get a blister there which forces me to stop shooting until it heals. I learned to tape my hand before going to the range if I planned to shoot them. But lately I have found a different way to hold these guns that is easier on my hand. With the Bisleys and the SAA, I shoot the same loads with no issues. All of these guns shoot these loads very well.
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haris1
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Have you tried decellerator grips by Pachmayr or the soft finger groove hogues? If not what kind of wood grips are you using??. 44 Magnum rifle loads will NOT blister a shooter with
hogue grips
andyo5
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Haris1, Wood or Hogue rubber, it makes no difference. I usually grip a revolver in my right hand with the web of my hand spanning the backstrap. These guns just beat the hell out of my hand when I hold them that way.
My new hold uses the thumb of my left hand to block the other thumb, pulling the web of my right hand away from the backstrap. It works and I can shoot well that way.
When I shoot less powerful calibers such as 38 spl or 45 ACP I do not nave an issue. But 357 magnum full power loads have the same effect as 45 Colt.
I should add that I am 65 years old, and due to the meds I take my skin is thinner than it once was. I believe this is a contributing factor.
My current grips are Ahrends finger grooved.
My new hold uses the thumb of my left hand to block the other thumb, pulling the web of my right hand away from the backstrap. It works and I can shoot well that way.
When I shoot less powerful calibers such as 38 spl or 45 ACP I do not nave an issue. But 357 magnum full power loads have the same effect as 45 Colt.
I should add that I am 65 years old, and due to the meds I take my skin is thinner than it once was. I believe this is a contributing factor.
My current grips are Ahrends finger grooved.
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