So I bought a 460V...

[mainegrw]

I bought a 5" 460V this weekend, and I pick it up from the shop this Saturday. It was a used, but very good condition example, so I couldn't resist. I like the multicaliber aspect of it, which is why it was an easy choice over a 500. I like shooting 45LC, but really want the option to go more powerful, and will probably load my own ammo down the road for it.

The most powerful caliber to date that I've shot is 44 mag, so 454 and 460 mag are a new adventure for me. What am I getting myself into here? Any tips on handling this beast of a Revolver?

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[Rpg]

Did it come with a carriage and lanyard cord?

 

[Narragansett]

Congratulations on your find. I hope you enjoy it. For me, I am way too recoil sensitive for that, not to mention the weight and the ammo cost. IMHO it would be an absolute must to hand load this. 2-3 dollars every time you pull the trigger is a bit salty.

Personally i stop at 44 mag in a handgun, and 30-06 in a rifle. The old saying is to shoot the largest caliber you shoot with comfort.

But, that is just me

 

[mainegrw]

I'm a glutton for punishment sometimes...

The reality however is that I will probably shoot mostly 45LC out of it, for which the 460V is way overkill. I will eventually load my own 454 and 460 for it, downloaded for comfort.

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[silverstateS&W]

I will always remember my 65 yard ground squirrel kill with 45 LC ammo(3rd shot)
i dont like recoil either but the multicaliber aspect is the winning attribute IMHO as well
Larry in Reno

 

[ruggyh]

This thread has been done many times. Do a search and there is lot of information in this forum.

Congratulations on your purchase.

Narragansett : Personally i stop at 44 mag in a handgun, and 30-06 in a rifle. The old saying is to shoot the largest caliber you shoot with comfort.

The caliber and weight of the firearm determine recoil. There are many 44 MAG revolvers that are very unpleasant compared to a 460 S&W.

be safe
Ruggy

 

[HamHands]

I shoot .44Mag regularly from my 3" barreled babies! With gloves, full house mags are no problem. Without gloves... after 3 cylinders I'm looking for my gloves for sure or switching to hot .44Specials. My buddy was taking his family to Denali National Park for vacation. He bought a .460 8 to 10" barrel with the comp and had a custom chest rig made for it that probably cost half the original gun purchase! It was a seriously nice rig. I shot it/sighted it in before his trip. After shooting the 200 grain ballistic tipped Hornady's rated at 2,200fps I said oh hell no... I'm done with this artillery piece. And I'm NOT recoil sensitive at all. If it were me going to Denali I would have been suffice to carry a 305grain Keith's from Underwood that are rated at 1350fps out of a 6" barreled Smith. They run just a hair over 1200fps out of my 3" Mountain Back Packer. To answer your question I think your .460 will be nice running .454 Casull out of her and comparable to your .44mag experience. A 325grain LBT-LFN pill rated at 1525fps will kill anything in the America's up to and including juiced up Sasquatches...

Oh, Pics or it didn't happen OP!

 

[DrDoctor]

Because big-bore revolvers are large-framed revolvers, they’re built stronger, and heavier, than medium-, and/or small-framed revolvers, and as such, firing less-powerful ammunition in a large gun results in much less felt recoil, muzzle flip, muzzle flash, and noise, due to the larger gun’s weight in relation to the power of the ammunition used. Considering the heft of the 460V revolver, one should be able to fire .45 Colt ammunition in semi-rapid, double-action succession with fairly good accuracy, due to the low recoil of the heavier gun. Further, the 460V provides the benefit of chambering different loads in the same cylinder, such as .460 S&W, .454 Casul, .45 Colt, and I’ve been told .45 Schofield, but I can’t confirm that.

 

[mainegrw]

Update: I picked the 460V from the shop yesterday, and went right over to the range to try it out. With 45LC, it's a pleasurable and accurate gun to shoot, and I like it alot. With 460 Mag, there's only one word to describe it: Terrifying.

Suprisingly however, the recoil impulse wasn't quite as bad as I expected, and really, I've had more painful experiences shooting some 44 mag revolvers than I did with the 460. Granted, my rate of fire wasn't quite the same as it would be with a 44.

I shot indoors, at a nearby range that can supposedly handle up to 50 BMG, though you'd be hard pressed to get the owner to allow a rifle of that caliber in there. I wore two sets of hearing protection just in case, which was definitely for the best. I used the shorter muzzle brake, and it definitely helped tame the recoil a bit, though I'm wondering if the longer brake would have been better. The direction of gasses upward did however serve to knock little bits ceiling tile and dust down from overhead onto the shooting bench, something that I've never experienced before. My shooting wasnt great, better than I had anticipated but I was hitting about 6" below my point of aim. (the sights were dead on for 45LC).

All in all, I think I like this thing. Maybe enough to look at a 500....

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[DonD]

Welcome to the fun world of big bore revolvers.

Yes, using commercial ammo, the 460 is clearly more versatile than the 500 Mag.

In the case of the 460, the Colt ammo works as a fun "plinking" load and yes, you can make pretty rapid DA shooting fun with it. For the 500 you must reload to have the same option.

In any event, I do encourage you to reload so you can shoot the full range of the 460s capability relatively inexpensively. Enjoy. Don

 

[Imissedagain]

Start reloading!!!
RCBS or similar quality SS press.
The money you save will finance another... .... but not being restricted to factory ammo is the main plus to us.

Which 460 ammo did you run?
I shot 50 Remington R45C Colts and spent too much time cleaning the chambers.

Are the grips on the 460 the same as the newer Nframe/629 round butts?

 

[delcrossv]

I've put about 500 rounds or 460mag ammo through my 460V and it's a pleasure to shoot. Much less perceived recoil than a 29. (probably the rubber grips). I like it alot better than my 500.

Be advised that the noise and muzzle flash with full on 460 ammo is spectacular.

With 45 LC's you'll wonder if you just shot a squib.

It is extremely accurate
E.G. 40' "Mozambique" w/460 Hornaday critical defense ammo

 

[Sevens]

A couple points to ponder...

The two switchable brakes that came with your revolver are for two different purposes, at least that it what I think I remember. If you aren't shooting any case lead bullets, stick with the brake that has all the cuts on the side.

Now the indoor range that you shot the 460 at is basically the most obnoxious venue possible outside of, perhaps, shooting in your car. I'm not saying that you shouldn't shoot a 460 on an indoor range, but I am saying that without a doubt, it is FAR more enjoyable outdoors. The noise, pressure blast and concussion from the ceiling, the floor and also from typical walls/booths in each shooting lane simply amplify all of the forces.

A .460 S&W Magnum runs a peak pressure of 65,000 psi, so you are releasing a blast that is approaching double of the .44 Magnum and like four times the pressure of the sedate .45 Colt.

 

[delcrossv]

A couple points to ponder...



Now the indoor range that you shot the 460 at is basically the most obnoxious venue possible outside of, perhaps, shooting in your car. I'm not saying that you shouldn't shoot a 460 on an indoor range, but I am saying that without a doubt, it is FAR more enjoyable outdoors. The noise, pressure blast and concussion from the ceiling, the floor and also from typical walls/booths in each shooting lane simply amplify all of the forces.

Yep. Clears the range quite quickly .
That said, it's a lot of fun indoors.

 

[mainegrw]

A couple points to ponder...



The two switchable brakes that came with your revolver are for two different purposes, at least that it what I think I remember. If you aren't shooting any case lead bullets, stick with the brake that has all the cuts on the side.



Now the indoor range that you shot the 460 at is basically the most obnoxious venue possible outside of, perhaps, shooting in your car. I'm not saying that you shouldn't shoot a 460 on an indoor range, but I am saying that without a doubt, it is FAR more enjoyable outdoors. The noise, pressure blast and concussion from the ceiling, the floor and also from typical walls/booths in each shooting lane simply amplify all of the forces.



A .460 S&W Magnum runs a peak pressure of 65,000 psi, so you are releasing a blast that is approaching double of the .44 Magnum and like four times the pressure of the sedate .45 Colt.

I know that 460 is best enjoyed outside, however the only range I had access to yesterday was that particular indoor range. It is a unique range that allows use of large bore handguns, centerfire rifles, and shotguns. It not uncommon to see stuff like this in there. I did however wait to later in the afternoon until near closing time, so I was the only one there. Out of courtesy, I went down the line away from the entrance area, but the owner did still remark on how loud it was out at the desk when I was leaving. Odds are I'll probably refrain from shooting 460 in there again.

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[mainegrw]

Start reloading!!!

RCBS or similar quality SS press.

The money you save will finance another... .... but not being restricted to factory ammo is the main plus to us.



Which 460 ammo did you run?

I shot 50 Remington R45C Colts and spent too much time cleaning the chambers.



Are the grips on the 460 the same as the newer Nframe/629 round butts?

I do reload, mostly 357 magnum and 38 Special, at the moment, but the goal is to add 460 and 45LC as well. I went looking for die sets and supplies online last night, and well as perusing the Hodgdon reloading data center for loading options, mainly for powder and primer needs, since it doesn't appear that I have any powder that crosses with 357/38, or at least not with 460. There might be a partial can of IMR 4227 kicking around that I was loading 357 with a while back. I think I saw a few loadings with that powder.

Edit: I do use a RCBS single stage press that my granddad bought several decades ago. I really don't load anything in a volume large enough to justify a multistage press. I stick to revolver cartridges, as most of the pistol calibers I shoot are so economically priced to not justify the time spent at the bench.


EDIT 2: I shot Hornady 200gr FTX rounds yesterday

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[Sevens]

To be clear, I'm not saying you shouldn't shoot .460 Magnum on an indoor range. In response to where you deemed it "terrifying", I'm simply saying that the full effect of .460 Magnum is less caustic to the senses when released outdoors on a beautiful day, and that many of the associated negatives of shooting .460 Magnum are amplified when it's run indoors.

 

[Oldfrt]

I don't see what the fuss is in shooting a 460 magnum at an indoor range, I do it almost every week. Usually draws a crowd if I get put in the observation bay.

 

[delcrossv]

I don't see what the fuss is in shooting a 460 magnum at an indoor range, I do it almost every week. Usually draws a crowd if I get put in the observation bay.

And it clears my sinuses!

 

[HOUSTON RICK]

Glad that you are loading your own, though the 460 has multicaliber capacity, none of those calibers are cheap. A responsible shooter at an indoor with a S&W Model 460 or Model 500 is no problem if the range is designed for it. We are supposed to have ear protection. Lord knows, we have all seen inexperienced shooters blasting away at every angle with their 50 caliber desert eagles.