speer cases

[Texan40]

according to speer #13 manual for 40 sw the recipe calls for speer brass which do not seem to be available to load 165 gr gd-hp.Does speer still make 40sw brass and if so where do i purchase this brass.Or do I use other brass like win,hornady,at starting loads and look for pressure signs?.Maybe over thinking this but i'm being cautious.

 

[dannyabear]

You don't really need Speer brass; but if you want some, I'd check on gunbroker

 

[muddocktor]

according to speer #13 manual for 40 sw the recipe calls for speer brass which do not seem to be available to load 165 gr gd-hp.Does speer still make 40sw brass and if so where do i purchase this brass.

As far as a know, Speer never "made" any brass themselves. They farmed it out to someone that does make brass and had them put the Speer name on the case head. Smith & Wesson did the same thing at one time too.

As for brass for loading 40 S&W, just back off a little on the powder charge and work up with the brass you have on hand and you should be good to go. Most commercial brass made here in the USA should have minimal difference in volume and weight, but backing off the powder charge gives you a chance to make sure it is safe to load and shoot.

BTW, I have Speer 44 Mag brass and S&W 38 Special brass myself and have been loading them for ages with no problems.

 

[dannyabear]

OR just buy some new Starline brass, and don't look back.

 

[nedlate]

I agree on buying Starline brass. Great price, good quality. And you can buy it directly from their website. Yes, Speer does make brass for loading their own ammunition. Always has!
Ed

 

[BLUEDOT37]

Most commercial brass made here in the USA should have minimal difference in volume and weight, but backing off the powder charge gives you a chance to make sure it is safe to load and shoot.

A while ago I checked some random WIN, R-P, & FED .40S&W brass that I had on-hand to compare their volume differences. I only found 0.3gr/H²O Wt. difference or ~1.5% in volume.

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[stansdds]

If you are considering buying new brass for reloading, I'd recommend Starline brass.

For my reloading, I just use whatever I happen to have. Unless I am looking for maximum accuracy or maximum velocity, mixed brass is just fine.

 

[MyDads38]

I've accumulated Speer brass over the years, as range pick-ups. Also available from LGS/indoor range from their range pick-ups. Might try Once Fired Brass | oncefiredbrass, as I buy my rifle brass from them. They offer some brass with all same headstamp, rifle and pistol. Used them in the past and always pleased with quality and fast shipping.

 

[Marshal Kane]

Most reloading manufacturers belong to a conglomerate so of course all of their testing is done with conglomerate components. A general rule is you can use any brand reloading components following the tested recipes like cases, bullets, primers, but use the specified powder and charges being careful to cautiously reduce charges as you approach maximum loads.

 

[gwpercle]

according to speer #13 manual for 40 sw the recipe calls for speer brass which do not seem to be available to load 165 gr gd-hp.Does speer still make 40sw brass and if so where do i purchase this brass.Or do I use other brass like win,hornady,at starting loads and look for pressure signs?.Maybe over thinking this but i'm being cautious.

Nothing wrong with being cautious or thinking !
You can substitute for the Speer brass. Start below the Max. load listed, work up and you will be fine.
I usually start in the middle of the load data with case swap ...some go all the way back to starting loads .
Gary

 

[Scuba16]

i have reloaded speer brass with no problem but had a hard time with 357 sig there brass has a smaller flash hole than other brands.

 

[LoboGunLeather]

News flash! Sears Kenmore never manufactured a single appliance, not a washer, not a dryer, not a dishwasher, not a range, not a refrigerator! But Kenmore became a major national brand name, contracting production to other companies, slapping the Kenmore name on the products, and selling them to loyal customers all over the US.

Speer brass? WW brass? RP brass? Starline brass? Fill in the blank with your favorite brand.

Start with the starting load and work up carefully in the brass you have to work with. Everything will be just fine.

 

[Steve W]

Get my brass at a police range. 9mm, 40 s&w, and 45 acp. Almost 90 % of it is once fired Speer.

 

[oneounceload]

OR just buy some new Starline brass, and don't look back.

Who probably made it in the first place; there aren't too many companies that make brass ammo cases.

 

[chief38]

I was unaware that Speer sold their cases separately and usually don't concern myself with the head-stamped name on cartridge cases as almost all the common American made brand names are all just fine. I belong to 3 different Clubs and Ranges and I NEVER have to BUY cases. There are ALWAYS hundreds and hundreds of once fired Factory cases for the taking. It bewilders me just how many people STILL do not reload and before tossing them in the Brass cans they sometimes even place all the cases back in their original boxes! .380 acp, 9mm, 38 Spl, .357 Mag, .45 acp, .223, 30-06, and even sometimes .45 Colt can easily be gathered up almost at will.

While Speer makes or uses quality cases, I find them no better or worse than anyone else's. IMHO Federal's cases seem to be the most robust however I will not turn down Remington or Winchester either as they work just fine.

 

[ArchAngelCD]

As you can tell by now no need to use the same headstamp as the brass in the load data.

If course Speer is going to use Speed branded brass in their book. More recent Speer manuals favor Alliant powders, CCI primers and other products owned by the same company group. CCI and Blazer brass will be the same as Speer brass since they are all owned by the same company, ATK as part of Vista Outdoors.
Brands - Vista Outdoor