SPEER GOLD DOT's 4 short barrel in a 6 1/2"?

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My local gun shop sold me some Gold Dots for my 44 Mag. Totally just so I have some ammo in the 44, just in case. My health being what it is, I wont be hunting anymore, and well I'm not ready to part with my P.C. 44. I ask the guy as I'm leaving the box say's for " short barrel ", and he just say's it will be fine. For the record, I wanted 44 special , he said he didn't have any. Today, I called Speer, and another not so pleasant guy, said to not use them in the long barrel gun. I believe he knows what he is talking about, and I tend to agree. Now I have to go back and deal with the not so pleasant guy at the LGS. What do you folks say?
 
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Just a guess, but it may build too much pressure because of a faster burning powder. I only use them in my short barrel guns (great rounds BTW), so I can't give you a "Been There Done That.

I'd believe the grump #2
 
Yes sir, he did use the term " faster " as he was explaining the reason to me. Something about " peeling back " too. None of it sounded healthy. Thank you for your input, 26
 
Don't be surprised if they won't take them back. I asked for some 9mm ammo and when I got home I found they gave me .40 cal. They said they could not legality take it back because of liability issues.
 
HORNADY XTP

FWIW, today I switched to the Hornady XTP, in 44 Special, { like I originally wanted }, 180 grain. I'll let you know after I get to shoot with them, but I like the spec's. I might end up switching to all Hornady for my S.D. rounds. 26
 
EVEN MORE MAD

Just went on Hornady's web site to request a catalog. My angry little trol at the friendly LGS, charged $28.99 for the ammo. Even suggested retail is only $22.25. And they can't fiqure out why people buy online??????????????????:mad::mad::mad::mad:
 
26,

My understanding is that the SB projectiles are engineered to expand at a lower velocity. If you load them to 44 mag velocity, you may have a problem with overexpansion. If you load them to 44 spl velocity, you probably would be fine. Dean
 
I inquired with Speer on "short barrel" ammo about a week ago and their email reply is that the "short barrel" ammo is designed for barrels 4" and under.
 
Thanks 41, and yes sir dean, you too are correct about the barrel length. Speer recommends them for a snub nose 44, 4" or less. I specifically told my LGS, that my 44 is a 6 1/2" barrel. You could just tell he had the attitude, that it wasn't his 1 of 200 made gun, and he wouldn't be standing next to me at the range either. I just hope this post brings light to others here on the forum. Remember, not all places would be willing to return ammo, and last I checked ammo is not cheap or free. 26
 
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FWIW, I shot Short Barrel .38+P ammo in a 6" 686, and there was no problem in the gun.
However, a short range shot into a water barrel splattered the bullet, so I can see bullet failure as the main issue.
 
FWIW, I shot Short Barrel .38+P ammo in a 6" 686, and there was no problem in the gun.
However, a short range shot into a water barrel splattered the bullet, so I can see bullet failure as the main issue.

Thank you sir, I have been waiting for you to chime in. I believe that's what the gentleman at Speer meant about " peeling back ", that the actual bullet would react on impact like you stated. Definately not an ideal scenario, and not how the round was designed. Thank you, 26.
 
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