Stock slippage: (photos)As I mentioned in my Range Report, after firing 1st round.

[DownRange&Upwind]

No problem GKH. Glad to upload the pics to help you out. Look at it this way, you get a brand spankin' new lower. So while its at S&W have em' go ahead and update everything to the newest specs, if its not already. Get it back, have a blast.. no pun intended. Lol

 

[HalfSwiss]

GKH, I wear the same sleeve length as you do. I not only use mine on position 6, but I also added a slip on recoil pad made explicitly for this kind of stock in order to add a half inch. I have no problem with stock weld nor is accuracy affected. It comes down to personal choice IMO.

 

[CIAWEASEL]

Butt pad info.....

Interesting info you guys. Wondering where is the best info on what butt pads are available for my stock..... Thanx!

 

[patrickmn]

If they have to exchange lowers, doesn't that mean you will have to have a store do the exchange?

 

[GKH]

If they have to exchange lowers, doesn't that mean you will have to have a store do the exchange?

Thanks again, everyone!
One of the things that came up after mentioning to a couple of friends of mine that shoot was; "Can a person actually ship a firearm through the mail that isn't FFL?" Apparently, so. S&W is sending me the label, insuring the rifle, and everything. All I have to do is put it in the box (w/o any optics, or extras), and mail it back using their label. And, they take it from there.
But, I thought that strange, as well.

 

[Rustpot]

I wear a 36/37 sleeve dress shirt, so I guess I have the same length arms. I use the position 2-3 clicks in from longest. I also use the gun in a carbine method and not a rifle one.

By that I mean my shoulders are square to the target and the gun comes straight out. Support hand goes out as far as comfortable for stability and control, my head curls down to the stock to see the sights, and the gun is as close as possible to me (on an AR the rule of thumb is nose a couple inches from the charging handle to avoid being konked be recoil).

This also makes a short fixed LOP gun like a 10/22 that most people find too short very usable since you optimally don't need more than 7-10". But using a regular rifle would be way to uncontrollable since the LOP puts the bulk of the gun so far away and you can't get your reaction hand out far enough to stabilize.

 

[patrickmn]

What I meant to ask is, since the lower receiver will have to be replaced, and that is where the serial number is located, if you get a new lower you will get a new serial number. From what I've read, if you get a new barrel for a Ruger Mark pistol you have to go through an FFL because it has the serial number on it.

I know if you are just having work done you wouldn't need an FFL. I made sure of that before I bought it because if I had needed to send it back for the new bolt I wanted to make sure I could do it myself. But getting a new gun isn't having work done.

 

[HalfSwiss]

Interesting info you guys. Wondering where is the best info on what butt pads are available for my stock..... Thanx!

As a starting point, try midwayusa.com> gunsmithing> AR-15, AR-10> AR-15> buttplates and recoil pads (in the long list of items). I would have given you a link but after trying twice and it wouldn't work, I had to resort to the above.

 

[chuck s]

The key to stock length is pretty simple. Can you conveniently touch the tip of your nose to the back of the charging handle? If not the stock is too long.

This "stock weld" will seem highly unnatural at first but is the only way to achieve a constant, repeatable eye-sight position with this straight stocked, pistol gripped rifle.

-- Chuck

 

[CIAWEASEL]

Thanx halfswiss....I finally figured out it is considered a M4 stock(DUH)!

 

[wbear]

What I meant to ask is, since the lower receiver will have to be replaced, and that is where the serial number is located, if you get a new lower you will get a new serial number. From what I've read, if you get a new barrel for a Ruger Mark pistol you have to go through an FFL because it has the serial number on it.

I know if you are just having work done you wouldn't need an FFL. I made sure of that before I bought it because if I had needed to send it back for the new bolt I wanted to make sure I could do it myself. But getting a new gun isn't having work done.

I had a S&W pistol replaced with a new frame and it came back with the same serial #. I assume they simply destroyed the old frame, put my original serial # on the new frame and sent it back to me. No FFL was involved. No harm, no foul.

 

[GKH]

My 15-22 is back! And, it's worse! Lol! Yeah!

After 2 weeks, S&W shipped my 15-22 back.Well, guess what? Holes 5 and 6 are both beveled on this stock! Now; all you have to do is place the stock to your shoulder, add a little pressure, and it jumps to the 4th position! ***?!

On my old stock, the gun actually had to fire for it to jump from position 6 to 5. This is too much!
As others that have shipped off their firearm to S&W, I spoke with a rep., they sent me a shipping label, I included a well documented document in the box, and they send it back to me worse than what I sent them!
Do you think my dealer is a goto in this situation? Or, should I just contact S&W (again)?

 

[Bos_roB]

Wow, thats incredibly annoying. I would be pissed. Although you may be hesitant, yes, send it back to S&W. That is pure bone-headed foolishness, tell them you want some free mags or something.

 

[GKH]

Wow, thats incredibly annoying. I would be pissed. Although you may be hesitant, yes, send it back to S&W. That is pure bone-headed foolishness, tell them you want some free mags or something.

Make no mistake! I am pissed! Not pleased at all! But, what can you do, right? I'm calling them tomorrow. I guess, my dealer cannot do anything since the gun has been fired.

 

[Bullseye Smith]

Call And tell the one you talk to that you aren't mad at them but my gun messed UP . Now it isn't fixed but 2 times worse that before. Will a regular ar stock fit it? I like the fixed stock over a adjustable on. I'm as tall as you and my RRA standard stock fit me fine.

 

[GKH]

Now; just awaiting another shipping label from S&W. I called them, and explained the situation. And, I included a couple of photos this time so they can see the stock. Below is one of the photos. You can see that hole 5, and 6 are beveled at the top edge. Just a slight pressure against the shoulder lets the pin pop down to the 4th (hole) position.

 

[ethan5.3]

I know it has been a long time since you posted this but I have the same problem with my 15-22 and was wondering what the final result was for you.

 

[hoytrulez]

stock slippage

I also would like to know the result mine does it also.

 

[true_shooter]

The key to stock length is pretty simple. Can you conveniently touch the tip of your nose to the back of the charging handle? If not the stock is too long.

This "stock weld" will seem highly unnatural at first but is the only way to achieve a constant, repeatable eye-sight position with this straight stocked, pistol gripped rifle.

-- Chuck

disagree, it may be usefull if you have short arms. but there is no such thing as the "only" way to do anything well when it comes to shooting.

 

[Majorlk]

disagree, it may be usefull if you have short arms. but there is no such thing as the "only" way to do anything well when it comes to shooting.

Amen! I don't have short arms, but a collapsed stock is way too short for me.