Stole this from Erich- The "Wrapid" Loader System

[rwsmith]

That is extremely....

That is extremely groovy. I was wondering how the heck it worked. Sure glad they included the video.

 

[CAJUNLAWYER]

If you could only see how much legal language I wrote is still being recycled years after I retired . . .

I still kick myself for not copywriting "habeas Corpus" "Res Ipsa" and "corpus delicti". Could have made a fortune licensing them out

 

[charlie sherrill]

Forgive me, but I am a bit skeptical about just how speedy this speed loader would actually be. I suppose if one were to practice constantly it might be viable, but I'm not sure. I looked for a video but could not find one.

I tried two different brands of speed loaders and a Bianchi speed strip but finally settled on a Kramer belt pouch that held 6 rounds - in three, 2 bullet compartments. I carried a J Frame up until 4 yers ago and learned to load 2 at a time. (had one extra i the pouch). I actually got really efficient and pretty darn fast. It was so much easier to carry and conceal than the other speed loader systems - at least for me.

Now I carry a Sig P365 and just stick an extra magazine in my front pocket. Takes seconds.

In my early years of law enforcement (I started in 1969) we were taught to load two at a time before all the speed loaders came out. I had six in my revolver, twelve in a belt loop holder, six more in a front pocket and six more in a rear pocket. I figured it might be enough until I could get back to the cruiser and get the shotgun or M1 Carbine. I still practice that way when shooting revolvers on my little pistol range.

 

[erikpolcrack]

Got mine today. Worked with it for a while with both my Victory and my M66 using 158 Gr SWC HP 38 Specials. Results not good so far. Will try different guns and different loads, including 357 Mag, as soon as I get a chance. Instructions could be a little clearer. You have to bend each joint somewhat farther than flat to get the cartridge to go in. The biggest problem I had was that it doesn't hold the cartridges securely close enough to plumb that they will go right into the chambers with only a little wiggling. One or more of the cartridges had to be hand manipulated for it to go in at all. When you pull the charger away (perpendicular to the axis of the cylinder), all the cartridges are supposed to drop as the cylinder turns counter clockwise. Each time I tried it with either gun, the last cartridge, the one farthest from the handle, did not release from the charger. Charger and cartridge had to be removed from cylinder and the cartridge manually twisted out.

 

[Erich]

Thank you for that report, erikpolcrack - much appreciated.

 

[CAJUNLAWYER]

It's kinda like watching the guy on TV with the ginsu knifes. You get your set and you ain't nearly as good as that guy.
Thanks for being the Beta tester!

 

[erikpolcrack]

Follow-up testing using six different cartridge types, two 357 and four 38 Spl. Also brought out at least a half-dozen other revolvers to try. Good news first - by really pulling a lot harder I got the failure to drop the end cartridge problem down to maybe once in every ten tries or so. Now the weird part. Out of the whole table of revolvers I laid out, the speed loader worked best with my fairly ancient Colt Army Special. A close second was my Official Police, with third place going to my GP-100, and fourth to my EAA Windicator. They all did better then either of my K-frames. Criterion was how quickly I could get the cartridges to enter the chambers with minimum wiggling and fiddling. The 110 and 125 Gr jacketed/semijacketed SPs and HPs did the best. No big difference between 38s and 357s. Tried it with 38 S&Ws in one of my Police Positives and my BSR Victory, and that actually worked best of all. Next step is to find my Combat Masterpiece and my old M&P and try them. I'm also going to try all the Smiths without grips.

 

[Onomea]

Thanks, erikpolcrack, for testing this out for us. Much appreciated.

 

[VictorLouis]

Aren't they made up of spring-steel? My concern is how much they may beat-up the finish on your revolver, metal-on-metal.

Unless you are really, really good with speed loaders, the advantage of reloading a semi-auto is that, with a little training, you don't have to take your eyes off the target to reload.

With Safariland Comp series, it's not difficult at all. A bit moreso with HKS, but still workable.

 

[ladder13]

Thanks, saved me $50 + shipping + tax.

 

[Erich]

Follow-up testing using six different cartridge types, two 357 and four 38 Spl. Also brought out at least a half-dozen other revolvers to try. Good news first - by really pulling a lot harder I got the failure to drop the end cartridge problem down to maybe once in every ten tries or so. Now the weird part. Out of the whole table of revolvers I laid out, the speed loader worked best with my fairly ancient Colt Army Special. A close second was my Official Police, with third place going to my GP-100, and fourth to my EAA Windicator. They all did better then either of my K-frames. Criterion was how quickly I could get the cartridges to enter the chambers with minimum wiggling and fiddling. The 110 and 125 Gr jacketed/semijacketed SPs and HPs did the best. No big difference between 38s and 357s. Tried it with 38 S&Ws in one of my Police Positives and my BSR Victory, and that actually worked best of all. Next step is to find my Combat Masterpiece and my old M&P and try them. I'm also going to try all the Smiths without grips.

Wow, you just can't get more relevant detail in a review than that. Thank you so much for taking the time.

 

[klbsa]

I carry 2 just about every day for my Ruger Service Six EDC..... Its been almost 5 months. I can tell you that they have not yet lost any tension to the springs..... I leave them curled up and out of the holsters at night though so that they are only under tension 12-15 hours a day... NOT 24 hours.

I thought they had way too many moving parts to not break..... Nope, still using the same two I started with.

After a few months of carrying them I decided I had to bring them to the other revolver lovers out there so I added them to Kaztac.com (my e-store). The price is not as high as you may think. They are made in Japan out of high carbon steel that's nickel plated by my business associate in his machine shop. The springs and the pull tab are made from high carbon stainless spring steel.

Labor in Japan is not cheap like it is in China or some 3rd world country. The leather holsters are pretty expensive to have made as well. They are not alibaba leather cases... They're very nice and high quality.

They sell faster than we can produce them..... I've sold hundreds and have only gotten a single return due to a defective Wrapid loader....and to be honest it was pretty obvious when the return came back that the dude bent the last link by loading it wrong and forcing the shell in at a bad angle.

The other 2 returns were people who had 5 shot revolvers and didn't read the description before buying.

The number one email we get from people is them asking if we are ever gonna make a 5 shot..... and yes it is in the design phase already and will be for sale right after the holidays in early 2024. No plans yet for a 7 or 8 shot. I have personally machined a 6 shot Wrapid Loader to fit my 5 shot J frame.... and it works perfectly. So I may machine a batch of them in my shop to sell for all those who just cant wait until next year.

The Wrapid loader is not meant to be the fastest revolver reloading system by any means..... Most standard speed loaders are faster, but they suck to carry (as your probably know) and the Wrapid Loader is WAY faster than speed strips while maintaining the same foot print.... So they are fast enough to load a gun in 1-2 seconds and actually concealable. You just need to practice like with everything else firearm related and you will get the hang of it pretty quickly.

We are also making high quality Japanese made SL Variant speed loaders currently. Using even higher quality springs than the previous German made models. They are also selling very fast.

We will have EVERYTHING re-stocked in the next 4 days so check out the website this coming week. Or just go to the product page and leave your email for a back in stock notification.

If Y'all have any questions just hit us up at the contact page on KazTac.com and one of us will usually get back to you in under an hour.

 

[klbsa]

Follow-up testing using six different cartridge types, two 357 and four 38 Spl. Also brought out at least a half-dozen other revolvers to try. Good news first - by really pulling a lot harder I got the failure to drop the end cartridge problem down to maybe once in every ten tries or so. Now the weird part. Out of the whole table of revolvers I laid out, the speed loader worked best with my fairly ancient Colt Army Special. A close second was my Official Police, with third place going to my GP-100, and fourth to my EAA Windicator. They all did better then either of my K-frames. Criterion was how quickly I could get the cartridges to enter the chambers with minimum wiggling and fiddling. The 110 and 125 Gr jacketed/semijacketed SPs and HPs did the best. No big difference between 38s and 357s. Tried it with 38 S&Ws in one of my Police Positives and my BSR Victory, and that actually worked best of all. Next step is to find my Combat Masterpiece and my old M&P and try them. I'm also going to try all the Smiths without grips.

The last link is designed to be a little tougher to release on purpose..... One of my two has that issue and after pulling through it a few times it now drops right in with no issues. Basically what Im saying is that some of them have a "Break in" period for that..... But they are surprisingly tougher than they look and you can give them a pretty good amount of force without breakage.... I guess that Carbon Steel does the trick

Thanks for adding some more to the list of guns it works in.... I will add that my old 50's pre Python was g2g as well as my Highway Patrolman from the 70's and all of my 6 shot Tauruses...... they will fit into a Kimber K6 but the cartridges will only go 1/2 the way into the cylinder (same as in my old 1948 M&P).... But as long as you don't pull UP at all it seems to work just fine.

Thanks for your business BTW, it means a lot.

 

[ASA335]

I won't be using these going forward...

I ordered two of these four days ago, and they arrived today. I'm happy with turn around time - the only thing I was happy with.

Feel and look weak. Most certainly not as sturdy as my HKS and Safariland loaders.

Too much "fumble" for me in getting rounds loaded into them, even after I watched the web site video on how to load them. HKS and Safariland are much easier to load.

I tried them with my Ruger Security Six and GP 100, S&W M19 and M28, Colt Python, and Kimber K6s. Except for the M19, all have factory stocks. I used 130 gr .38 specials (dummies).

The loader hung up on all of the stocks, and the rounds did not line up with the chambers unless I spread the loader out some. Not one of them accepted the loader without a two-handed tilt and spread. Once I got the rounds lined up with the chambers and pushed part way into all chambers, the loader did pull away, spun the cylinder, and dropped the rounds the rest of the way into the chambers as shown in the web site video.

I thought at least I'd be able to use the leather pouches for my DeSantis Speed Strips, but nope. The pouch interior is a bit too large. The strip sit too deeply, the opening is a bit too long and the strip shifts. I have to fumble to get one back out.

You may have a better experience.

Note: I started out as a revolver shooter with my Sheriff's Office in the early '70s, and was the last officer to carry a duty revolver with my City PD in the mid '90s (we all had to switch to semi-autos by then), and I've been a revolver trainer and competitor for decades, so I'm fairly familiar with revolver use.

 

[Jeppo]

Will they work on my Model 52?

 

[sipowicz]

I will continue to consider my running shoes as a Revolver speed loader.