Such a thing as a "Do Not Detain" order?

[trooper2899]

There is a wide menu of computer entries and "flags" that can be entered on individuals and vehicles for investigative purposes, federal and state police agencies can install "flags" unbeknown to other agencies, (IE vehicle computer check of plates of parked unoccupied vehicle) inquiring agency gets routine data but flag pops up at com center of installing agency that vehicle or individual "checked by East Podunk PD" and location.

 

[CAJUNLAWYER]

This is the closest I've seen to what you described.

Hell-that's better than a "District Attorney" badge and ID card
I need to get one of those.

 

[trooper2899]

Most "connected" people do not drive vehicles registered in their names or even OWN vehicles in their name, they usually drive leased or corporate vehicles - in most upscale wealthy communities like Chapaqua NY 80% of vehicles are leased or corporate owned....only house keepers and lawn maintenance people use plates registered to them selves (or to their grand mothers if they have a "****ty" license).

 

[NYlakesider]

A friends son who is and has always been a "looser" skates his way out of a lot of Cop type problems. He is a informer for them and has helped a lot of cases. He gets stopped for something and gets turned loose after a couple calls to higher up. If he does get arrested and goes to court he usual gets out of it or gets a slap on the wrist.

I guess it pays to have friends in high places. I doubt he will be around much longer. Either the other street people will eventuality figure this out or he will OD.

 

[CAJUNLAWYER]

Speaking of this kind of thing, I've noticed watching "The First 48" that police in Memphis and Birmingham can put a suspect on "a 48-hour hold", without formal charges. How the hell is that legal? I'm no attorney, but that sounds unconstitutional to me.

I'm as supportive of the police as anybody, and I'm not faulting the officers, but that's a very strange law.

When a person is arrested and held an affidavit of probable cause must be presented to a judge within 48 hours to maintain the hold. Thereafter the holdee must be presented before a magistrate, advised of the charges against him and bond set. If either of these deadlines are missed-the guy files a habeous writ and gets released. So yea technically the police can arrest a guy-sweat him for 47 hours and then kick him. I know this stuff cuz I see it ever day If the arrest involves anything the arresting officer considers domestic violence they guy can be held up to 5 days in Louisiana before bond needs to be set. Now if you want to see abuses-this is the one to look at. Bottom line the average Joe-if arrested is going to have an unpleasant few days in the pokey unless the offence has a pre set bond and he has access to a bondsman, family, lawyer or someone who "can make a phone call". In my experience however the vast majority of people who do get arrested have done something to warrant the arrest. The abuses are usually quickly rooted out and taken care of. Unless you live in Iberia Parish
Iberia Parish Sheriff Louis Ackal indicted | Breaking News | iberianet.com

 

[trooper2899]

I have seen murders and planned murders solved/prevented based on a "free ride" reduction for a DUI 4 maggot who flips in his own family members. Its a fact of life and has been going on since Jesus was a corporal.....it solves crimes and is perfectly legal in every jurisdiction in the US (case closed)

 

[JSR III]

I received a card from Frank Reagan, NYC Police Commissioner, that I show to the cops any time I get pulled over. They immediately let me go. If you don't believe me, watch Blue Bloods.

 

[Muss Muggins]

Happened across this claim from an acquaintance and I'm skeptical; fellow says law enforcement sometimes uses a "do not detain" order on individuals who are implicated in major investigations so they don't get caught up for small stuff like traffic tickets. Never heard of this.

Unless my Internet Fu fails me, there's next to nothing about this online except discussion of its supposedly desirable and attainable status on Sovereign Citizen forums , which makes me even more skeptical.

Anyone know anything?

More to the OP's point, which none of the replies have thus far addressed, there is such a thing, but they are not that common, and the subject of the order never knows about it . . .

 

[GatorFarmer]

What I suspect was originally referenced was something of a "Good Fellas" investigation taking place. In essence when Officer Friendly calls in because he stopped Marco the Machete for running a stop light, Officer Friendly is told to let Marco go on his way.

A variety of other get out jail free cards do exist, or have existed, over the years.

Old timers may recall the MACV SOG card. It said something like this individual is authorized to have unusual weapons, be out of uniform, be doing strange things and was not to be detained. Naturally it was useful for getting the MPs to turn you loose after a bender.

Something like that existed at least through the mid to late 90s for certain sinister types of certain agencies. It said something about do not detain for any reason and had an 800 number on it. I guess in case local LE did not want to pay long distance back in the days when that was more of an issue. These cards were rarely encountered but enough people came across them that you can be reasonably sure that they did exist.

 

[lrrifleman]

Really? Teach all the nuances of law in high school?
They have a hard enough time teaching the ABCs and basic math as it is.
The fact that you may have "elected" to pursue that field shouldn't mean that everyone should.
That's diving awfully deep into basic civics if you ask me.

I was a Social Studies/History teacher for almost 28 years before I retired. Up until about 2000, when I had students that were in school to learn, no like in the latter years when I faced warehoused lifeforms that consumed space and oxygen, I was able to teach the requisite content in depth. Early in my career, I had students that wanted to learn and I was allowed to teach them. Towards the sunset of my career, too many students challenged me in defiance of teaching them something.

For my children, they may be exposed to Common Core, but they are also being exposed to a traditional education at the same time.

 

[Old Corp]

Never ran into anything like that.
Did arrest an individual for drunk driving that actually was a relocated person in the Witness Protection Program. Towards the end of the booking process, he produced a business card from a Chicago-area FBI agent, asking me to verify his story.
I followed up, and found it all to be true.
In court, he was found guilty of DWI, and all that entails.

 

[Muss Muggins]

Never ran into anything like that.
Did arrest an individual for drunk driving that actually was a relocated person in the Witness Protection Program. Towards the end of the booking process, he produced a business card from a Chicago-area FBI agent, asking me to verify his story.
I followed up, and found it all to be true.
In court, he was found guilty of DWI, and all that entails.

The U. S. Marshals run Witness Protection. Those running the program won't even acknowledge that somebody is in it, much less identify them. If your story is true, that fella you arrested probably got kicked out of the program for saying he was in it . . .

 

[Old Corp]

The U. S. Marshals run Witness Protection. Those running the program won't even acknowledge that somebody is in it, much less identify them. If your story is true, that fella you arrested probably got kicked out of the program for saying he was in it . . .

Correct, and the FBI agent I contacted was part of the original investigation that resulted in this person's placement in the program.
And, this was the 1980's, a simpler time.

 

[Hillbilly77]

I usually find it sufficient to remind the officer in question that I am a taxpayer and therefore I pay his salary.

They like that. It reminds them who's in charge.

 

[Muss Muggins]

I usually find it sufficient to remind the officer in question that I am a taxpayer and therefore I pay his salary.

They like that. It reminds them who's in charge.

I used to mention that I was also a taxpayer, and at the moment, I was on my own dime . . .

 

[shouldazagged]

Anyone can be arrested and held in jail for a statutory period in any state. There must be "Probable Cause" to believe a crime has been and that the person under arrest (detained) committed that crime. In Utah the statutory period is 72 hours. The basis is that for an arrest made after normal business hours for the court on a Friday can be held until court is in session on the following Monday.

They have been charged by being booked. "Formally" charged simply means that the case has not yet been reviewed by the appropriate prosecutor who has issued a "Complaint". Once the individual is "Arraigned" he will be admissable to bail except in the case where the crime charged is a "Capital Felony"!

It is too bad that "Civics" AKA "Government" is generally an elective rather than a core subject anymore. If it were you would have been taught this in High School!!!!!

I graduated from high school in 1955. Civics was not elective but a requirement.

I am not an attorney--if I didn't make that point in my post I should have. I appreciate your scholarly clarification of the issue, but I'm less enthusiastic about the evaluation of my education.

I still don't care much for the idea, and at my age I'm unlikely to change that; but if it's the law it's the law, like other laws whose constitutionality I question.

I could elaborate on some very specific reasons for my concerns, like detectives in other cities apparently unable to do the hold with what appeared to be equal PC, but I've had enough of this. Thanks again for your incisive explanation. Have a fine day.

 

[mtgianni]

A long time ago, in a county far away we pulled over a local wanted for Murder along with a car full of other wanna bee's. When the Dispatch went out that he was apprehended and NCIC called, the Dispatcher received a call from a three letter agency that said in essence 'do not detain this individual". Charges on the murder warrant were dropped the next day. As a Search and Rescue ride alone officer when I asked the Officer I was accompanying later he said "I was told my pay grade was not high enough to know what happened". Hey-sus left the area and never returned as long as I lived there.

 

[model70hunter]

Just saw one in Costners Untouchables I was watching again last night. Nitti had one signed by the Mayor of Chicago.

Get cher Popcorn, peanuts, soda, beer and do not detain orders all at Wrigley field.

So go to Chicago and ask.....

Lots of old Revolver, 1911, Win Mod 12 and 97 use in the movie along with the Thompson.

 

[Muss Muggins]

Unless my Internet Fu fails me, there's next to nothing about this online except discussion of its supposedly desirable and attainable status on Sovereign Citizen forums , which makes me even more skeptical.

Anyone know anything?

I thought Sovereign Citizens just issued their own?

 

[16thVACav]

I usually find it sufficient to remind the officer in question that I am a taxpayer and therefore I pay his salary.

They like that. It reminds them who's in charge.

The last time I said that to a cop, he asked for a raise.