Supressors 15-22

[Ground Chuck]

If adding a supressor to a 15-22 does it absolutely have to have a SBR. SBR's are pretty difficult to get signed off on in maryland.
Looking for some insight please. If you have some snarky and or douchy comment please dont bother posting.

 

[trebor127]

NO

keith

 

[Rob1]

If adding a supressor to a 15-22 does it absolutely have to have a SBR. SBR's are pretty difficult to get signed off on in maryland.
Looking for some insight please. If you have some snarky and or douchy comment please dont bother posting.

In my opinion NO it doesn't.
Simply remove flash eliminator and screw in sound mod.

I guess really it's down to what you want or are prepared to pay for and if the barrel length is an issue or not.

For me I wanted to be able to have the choice noisy or not.

So to that end flash eliminator off sound mod on, hand tight only and carry on.

I can then change as and when I want to so get best of both.

I use Winchester hollow point subs with no problems at all. Pretty much chews through as fast as I can feed it.

Though it does crud up the mod some. Check out my post " moderator Clearout" for a rough idea. The posted pic is approx 1500 rds give or take a 100.

Rob.

 

[97catintenn]

Hey, have you found any sub sonic ammo that your gun will cycle? If so, then you're good to go. If not, you'll still have that sonic crack with the long barrel.

 

[RedNeck Jim]

SBR's are pretty difficult to get signed off on in maryland.

Get your stamp thru a corporation or set up a trust, and there is no requirement for a sign off or fingerprints. Gun trusts are not difficult. My family owned business is a corporation, so I registered thru it... both for the suppressor & the SBR.

SBR allows you to shoot any ammo without the sonic crack. I shoot subsonic ammo with mine (still waiting on form 1 stamp) and have had no issues at all. Granted, I have a CMC trigger & I think the hard hammer strike with it helps a bunch.

 

[BigWaylon]

Get your stamp thru a corporation or set up a trust, and there is no requirement for a sign off or fingerprints. Gun trusts are not difficult. My family owned business is a corporation, so I registered thru it... both for the suppressor & the SBR.

Unfortunately, it's not that simple in Maryland.

SBR allows you to shoot any ammo without the sonic crack. I shoot subsonic ammo with mine (still waiting on form 1 stamp) and have had no issues at all. Granted, I have a CMC trigger & I think the hard hammer strike with it helps a bunch.

You need to clarify that part of that post a bit. You cannot say all ammo is subsonic out of an SBR. You can have an SBR with a 2" barrel, or a 15.5" barrel, and you'll have drastically different results. The commonly accepted length at which most bulk pack stays subsonic is in the 4.5"-5" range. Some of the hyper velocity stuff still cracks at that length. Although a 15-22 with a 7" or 8" barrel is relatively short, you'll have a lot of ammo crack at that length.

Just to say all SBRs are not created equal.

To the OP...no SBR required for suppressor use, but you just need to know what that means as far as how quiet the rifle/can/ammo combo will be.

 

[ChattanoogaPhil]

If SBR is a requirement I must have missed the memo.

SBR advantages
*Smaller package
*Shoot cheap HV bulk pack ammo subsonic (and that is a BIG economic plus) as long as barrel is under 5in.
*Cool factor

Rifle length advantages
*Near zero first round pop regardless of type suppressor
*Slightly less report

 

[RedNeck Jim]

Unfortunately, it's not that simple in Maryland.

Didn't know that. Sometimes I forget all states aren't created equal.

Just to say all SBRs are not created equal.

Thanks for clearing that up.

 

[BigWaylon]

Didn't know that. Sometimes I forget all states aren't created equal.

They have some stuff that went into effect 10/1/13 as I understand it. Can't make new SBRs under 29", and some other ****.

ATF doesn't even know exactly what is going on, and is approving/disapproving stuff in batches. It's crazy to say the least.

 

[Hereford]

Agree with Rob1 above - try these if you can get hold of them....

Good, consistent ammunition - with a suppressor on the front all you'll hear is the action cycling

 

[swinokur]

MD law SB 281 prohibits an SBR less than 29" in OAL effective 10-1. It also prohibits the use of a flash hider AND a folding stock. Having only one is legal. ATF is very confused about all this and is working with MSP to try and get this mess straightened out. As mentioned, a bunch of Form 1's were disapproved by ATF recently. If the gun was purchased before 10-1, the SBR OAL and other requirements doesn't apply.

I put a Sparrow on mine and left the barrel alone.

IANAL

 

[RedNeck Jim]

But how does that law relate to the OP's concern regarding sign off & use of a trust?

 

[sundazes]

I have a Spectre II for mine, no SBR. Runs great. Gemtech SS cycles fine as does just about all ammo. No need to SBR it. Most SV ammo stays subsonic in mine.
MD sucks. but it aint CA or NY….YET.

 

[BigWaylon]

But how does that law relate to the OP's concern regarding sign off & use of a trust?

It doesn't in any way.

It was just adding to the rabbit chase that ensued.

But the OP's question was very simple, and was answered multiple times. You can indeed use a suppressor on a >16" barrel just fine. He never asked about how to get the SBR...he asked if you're required to have an SBR since it's difficult for him to get one.

 

[RedNeck Jim]

It doesn't in any way.

I'm confused now. When the OP stated he had sign off issues, I suggested he bypass that requirement by using a trust or corp. You stated it wasn't that simple in MD.

So can you use a trust in MD... or not?

 

[roadkill45]

i have no SBR's and run cans on all of my rifles and 3 calibers of handguns. i use SS ammo in all .22's as it is abundant in my area, plus i had a hoard prior to the madness. it is very quiet in a 16" 15-22 and a 16" tacsol barrel on my 10-22 madness, VQ, gun.
funny, i have found that i can shoot in my garage, my 15-22 or any of the .22 rifles in the garage with hardly any noise. if i use my Ruger MKIII pistol or say my Walther P22 it is extremely loud for the garage even when using SS ammo.

 

[BigWaylon]

I'm confused now. When the OP stated he had sign off issues, I suggested he bypass that requirement by using a trust or corp. You stated it wasn't that simple in MD.

So can you use a trust in MD... or not?

See swinokur's post. The laws are nuts regardless of using a trust or not. It's not as simple as getting a trust and avoiding all the ****. Local PD doesn't fully understand them, and neither does the ATF.

But again...OP wasn't even asking about how to acquire an SBR. Which is why a lot of this discussion is a separate topic (which is fine to discuss, IMHO).

 

[HDHNTER]

16" worked out just fine for me.

 

[vipermd]

If adding a supressor to a 15-22 does it absolutely have to have a SBR. SBR's are pretty difficult to get signed off on in maryland.
Looking for some insight please. If you have some snarky and or douchy comment please dont bother posting.

First: No you do not need sbr.
Second: Innovative arms does a conversion on a MP15-22 that has an integral suppressor, which is easy to clean, the only noise is the action using HV ammo. I would do a video, but check out their site, video and you will not believe how quiet it is.
Third: I have compared my 15-22 with the IA with integral can vs Liberty, silencerco, spectre, and subsonic 22 gets close to the IA, while Fed 36 grain has a crack with all of the cans except the IA.
The sound of Silence is addicting. Be Safe,

 

[batman4706]

I have 2 SBR;s but the 15-22 isn't one of them. I run a Spectre 2 on my stock gun and with standard velocity it is quiet and works the action. Subsonic will not work the action in mine.