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I know we all love our SW guns but why is everyone waiting for SW to make a M&P 10 mm when Colt makes a great 10mm gun?
 
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If S&W did make a 10mm I'm sure it'd be far cheaper than the Colt. Last I checked the Colts were pretty hard to find anyway. Plus the M&P is such a great platform. I really believe if they had come out before Glock they (M&P) would be the predominant polymer handgun.
 
Colt blew it when they made the DE. I doesn't feature a fully supported chamber which doesn't allow the use of full house 10mm.
 
I had a Delta Elite 10mm back in the day that I used in USPSA for a short time. It was fun shooting it and then going back and picking up my brass, sights, plunger tube, etc........
 
I doubt that there is enough market for S&W to bother. The G20 still works well, and there are plenty of accessories for that platform since most of them are for the G21. In fact, it is probably the only Glock I would consider buying right now, but I have no use for the 10mm that justifies the money.
 
I would concur with Doug M--there just isn't the market for a 10mm; they wouldn't recoup the costs to retool and make one.

There hasn't been a new-design 10mm pistol out for at least 10-15 years that I'm aware of--all of the recent ones have been copies of other already existing 10mm's (1911's, CZ clones( Witness), etc...).

I've gotten out of the 10mm game in the last year or so, but if you want a really good 10mm that is quite the sleeper, value-wise--look at the EAA Witness Elite Match. It's one heck of a gun for the money.
 
The reason they might make one is the same reason Glock makes one; because not everyone likes the 1911 design.

Would I buy an M&P in 10mm? Probably not. I'm too much of a fan of the .45ACP. I do have 9mm and .40S&W guns, but mostly shoot the .45s.

I owned a Delta Elite back in the early 90s. It sucked. It had at least one malfunction on every magazine. It ruined me for Colt firearms for a long time. I still wouldn't buy one today.
 
While they are no longer produced, S&W made some of the best, if not THE best 10mm pistols ever produced. I'm speaking of the 10XX series of gen3 Smiths. The 1006 is about the same size and weight as a full size 1911. Much tougher, IMHO. The one I have performs flawlessly and is quite accurate. There are shorter and lighter versions available. Plenty of them to be had on the used market. I, too, once had a Colt. Kept it about two weeks.
 
As with all things, mileage varies. I was issued a 1076. They were breakage prone pigs at best. It had slightly better ergonomics than the other 10XX variants for a left hander like me, due to the SIG style decocker, but they ate small parts like extractors at a staggering rate (600 rounds or less to failure), and were way oversized for the ballistics of the duty ammo. They were replaced with the 4566, which was also breakage prone (I saw failures requiring armorer attention at almost every in-service shoot). I bought an authorized option, which had one big flaw: it went through mag springs at a rate that boggled my mind. I had to replace them yearly. I know some agencies and individuals had great success with the 3rd generation/4 digit pistols, but I never saw anything that would make me want one.
 
I see the 10mm round (and handguns chambered for it) with several smaller niche markets.

Yes, some will carry it for self defense. It gives you a mountain of energy in a lightweight package. For my needs I would pick another caliber for protection against two legged threats, but would feel well armed with something like a GLOCK 29 with me.

However, I think the 10mm is a very good option for those who want a semi-auto pistol for hunting. The other market I see is the backpacker or hiker who wanders into bear or big cat country. For either of these relatively small markets, GLOCK has it covered with their compact G29 and full sized G20.

Because of this small market which is already cornered by another manufactuer, I don't see S&W making a 10mm pistol anytime soon.

Edmo
 
I have carried a Glock G20 SF and two spare magazines in rural areas since 1992. The fifteen plus one capacity is great if help is an hour or more away. I carry Buffalo Bore or Underwood 180 grain JHP in it. If I want more velocity, I drop in a six inch factory barrel and a 22 pound recoil spring.

I also have a new version Colt Delta Elite and a Kimber Stainless Target II that get carried more often in the winter over my 1911s in .45 ACP. I carry Winchester Silvertip 175 grain in them.
 
10mm's

I have been shooting the 10mm since it's inception....had a Bren ten, have several Colt's, Smith's and Glock's......I carry the G-20 nowadays since I am retired.....I had several friends who were involved with the Smith 10mm during the time the FBI(at the academy level) was wanting to issue it....they were problematic on several accounts....as I mentioned I have a couple and have been a Smith armorer since the late 70's, so I am quite familiar with their strength's and weaknesses..the10mm is also a "challenge" from a training standpoint.....I favor the G-20 for myself, because they are very dependable, durable, accurate and I have a consistent trigger pull from the first to the last w/o the DA/SA transistion.
The 10mm has always been a "special interest" round, and will always be.
 
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What about a custom 10mm barrel in a M&P45 frame? I wonder if lone wolf would be able to make one. 10mm should be able to feed from 45ACP magazines.(Could always alter the feed lips, not like there is a shortage of 45acp magazines)? Would be worth screwing with.

Somebody converted an M&P45 to 460 rowland iirc
 
Yes, you could put a 10mm barrel in a .45 M&P. However, you'd definitely have to have new mags made up. I guess you could alter the feed lips on a .45 mag, but it would take some work.
 
I carried a 1086 for several years. Great gun! The only downside of it was the weight; much heavier than needed IMO.

Mine was super reliable. During a class I attended, our magazines were loaded with a spent round mixed in,to initiate a jam. My 1086 actually chambered the spent casing! A simple slap, rack & bang I was back in business.
 
Rastoff said:
Yes, you could put a 10mm barrel in a .45 M&P. However, you'd definitely have to have new mags made up. I guess you could alter the feed lips on a .45 mag, but it would take some work.
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I think once the barrel has been done the hard part is over. The mag bodies will have to be heated, adjust and quenched. So what, it has been done with the .40's during the shortage. Folks got pretty good at it. It makes sense to do it to the 14 round extended magazines. I'm guessing we'll get 16-18 in them or more if we go bananas and put extensions. Awesomeness!
 
forrestinmathews said:
I think once the barrel has been done the hard part is over. The mag bodies will have to be heated, adjust and quenched. So what, it has been done with the .40's during the shortage. Folks got pretty good at it. It makes sense to do it to the 14 round extended magazines. I'm guessing we'll get 16-18 in them or more if we go bananas and put extensions. Awesomeness!
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That's what I was thinking actually. Id love to see it happen.
 
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