SW22 Victory not ejecting

[.38SuperMan]

Looks like an ejector, possibly an extractor issue. When a case flips and stays in the ejection port like that after firing, that is usually the issue. I would try a little SLIGHT manipulation of the ejector with a pair of needle nose pliers before sending it in for repair.

Larry

I have a new Victory that developed this problem after 700 rounds. The first 700 were flawless and then every third round failed to eject.

I figured it had to be either the extractor or ejector or a combination. I contacted Smith and talked them into sending me a new extractor, plunger and spring. I installed these parts and did a thorough cleaning. The new parts helped but didn’t totally resolve the problem.

Next I did another thorough cleaning and lubed well and bent the ejector (not extractor) inward a couple thousandths. The seemed to resolve my issue. I did another thorough cleaning and took it to the range and shot 300+ rounds with only one FTE.

Since you’re is new give it a try.

 

[Winston60]

When doing the "bending" of the ejector, do you bend the entire length of the ejector or just the front half that is narrower?

 

[m657]

I've just acquired my own SW22 this past week, essentially a new gun.


The extractor issue at 500-700 rounds is worsening, at least on mine.
And the Customer Service says it has a magazine release spring I needed "on backorder" as in "the only way you'll get one is to ship the gun to us for service" as all parts are going to the build line.


Direct quote "We are in the business of selling guns, not selling parts".
5-6 week turn around for a frigging spring???


I will be tuning & buffing out this SW22 as it seems to have incredible promise. Glad to read the posts on problem solving above.

 

[olemil]

Ejector update

I know this thread has been dead for over a year but thought I would throw in my two cents. Always had occasional problems with my SW22 not ejecting, jamming up and just being a pain. My wife had the same problem so when we sent it back to Smith & Wesson to replace the junk barrel that it had, they tweaked the ejection problem also. So yesterday hers had maybe two fte's at the range, I was getting one about every 4-5th round. Looked at this thread again and decided I was going to either try to fix the problem or buy a new receiver. I looked at her ejector position compared to mine the way it lays in the bolt groove and it finally jumped out and bit me. Her ejector lays perfectly parallel in the groove of the bolt while mine was slight bent outward away from the center of the receiver. So I took my smooth jaw precision needle nose pliers and tweaked the thin part of the ejector to make it lay parallel in the groove. It doesn't take much force so move it gently. I'm guessing you want the ejector to lay as close to parallel in the groove as possible to work properly, if not I'll tweak it a little more. Hope this helps any new SW22 owners who isn't sure what's causing all the FTE problems. I won't get to test it out until Sunday at the range but I have a lot of faith this will cure my problem. You can see the difference in the two pictures between the before and after. Note in the before pic how the gap between the ejector and the bolt groove widens the closer it gets to the end of the ejector. Sorry for the sloppy highlighting, hard to draw with a trackball.

 

[wproct]

I think you are on the right path. I wouldn't be surprised if you don't have to tweak it in just a little more to get perfect ejection results.

 

[olemil]

I think you are on the right path. I wouldn't be surprised if you don't have to tweak it in just a little more to get perfect ejection results.

Thank you for your reply. You think I better try it before tweaking it a little more? So for best results, the tip of the ejector needs to be slightly bent past center of bolt groove opposite of what I started with? Thanks again for your help.

 

[wproct]

Thank you for your reply. You think I better try it before tweaking it a little more? So for best results, the tip of the ejector needs to be slightly bent past center of bolt groove opposite of what I started with? Thanks again for your help.

Yes, I would try it first. It may be fine.

 

[olemil]

Yes, I would try it first. It may be fine.

Will do and thanks again!!

 

[olemil]

Range Day

Well luckily the weather was nice enough for some range time and I must say I am now loving my SW22!! I threw 3-4 different brands of ammo at it after the ejector tweaking and it NEVER failed once even with 30-40 rounds of Thunder ammo!! I was so happy I could stand there and pull the trigger as fast as I wanted and not have to stop and fix a jammed casing every 4th or 5th round. The target is after about 200+ rounds. Thanks again for the help, hopefully it will perform flawlessly for many more years to come.

 

[jimmyrivers]

Ejecter fix, fixes everything.

Olemil is 100% correct.

Stovepiping, Failure to eject, slide getting stuck , loading 2 bullets same time. 6 out of 10 failed multiply times

All fixed with the suggestion of the illustration where you change the ejector and make it parallel both left to right to slide and flatten the tilt of the angle some so its not as tilted as "much" We didnt go overboard with the needle nose plyers. Just a slight twist, and straighten, doesnt need to be 100% a small amount is all you need careful due to the welds. Try small amount and shoot until works.

My brother shot hundreds of round after this no failures.

I will post the before and after olemil posted basically thats the answer to all the problems.

 

[IndependentEddie]

Me Too

I can't find a current article but mine purchased in 2021 has a similar problem and probably worse. I cleaned it before using. It had a lot of failure to ejects for the first 50 or so. I cleaned it again and it seemed OK for the next 100-150 then went to complete failure to eject. Rounds stuck in the chamber that I need to use a stick to remove. The range guy said that my ejector was broken. I then found a small piece on the table that was probably part of the ejector that fell off. It was small and straight with didn't look like an ejector that usually has a hook, right? I'm sending this back to S&W. I'm surprised that this has been going on for years and they haven't fixed it.

 

[GearsandFuel]

Thank You. This worked.

njsarn, thank you, very helpful.
Feel free to make a second post!

Thank you as well. This worked

 

[PALADIN85020]

I guess I'm glad I passed on buying a Victory and instead bought a brand new Mk IV Ruger target. Zero issues with the Ruger - perfect functioning out of the box, quite accurate and takedown is a snap.

I own 12 Ruger .22s; from the first standard to the Mark IV. The only one I didn't like was the Mark III - designed by lawyers - its superfluous doodads and "safety features" screwed with the simplicity of the Mark II, which to my mind was perfect - everything you needed and nothing you didn't. Disassembly of the Mark III model became a nightmare.

I had an ejection problem with only one Ruger - it was a Mark I target model. I tweaked the ejector inward with needle-nosed pliers in exactly the manner described here for the Victory. There is indeed a sweet spot for the ejector to strike on the empty case as it comes out of the chamber - once found, the problem never happened again on that Ruger. Those Ruger ejectors were evidently properly heat treated; never had one break after many thousands of rounds downrange.

For the record, as many know here, I'm a great S&W fan, but am extremely disappointed in their apparent lack of effective quality control on products shipped in recent years. I admit to being a traditionalist, and way prefer older S&W products, both with revolvers and semiautos. Like the old Timex commercials used to say, they take a lickin' and keep on tickin'. I'm appalled at reading about the problems many are having with the Victory.

John

 

[GearsandFuel]

Thank you! This solved my problem.

Bought SW22 Victory from BGS KY about 4/29/16 for my YL (young Lady). Cleaned and lubed, took out to the range first time 5/19/16. Was expecting joyful experience but instead got stovepipe every 2nd shot using Fed High Power (1260 fps) so changed to CCI minimag (1235 fps) same issues for 40-50 rounds total. Called S&W, they said shoot for another 200 rounds if the problem persists then call them again. Is this a rash of issues on 2016 SW22 Victory or know problem? Would appreciate any advise on the root cause, eg. is the Pin not bent enough or bent the wrong way or ???
Here's the solution: Bend the ejector pin into the case path by about 0.5 to 1.0 mm. Took it to the range and now the SW22 Victory will take any cartridge sub sonic or super sonic Federal or CCI - Problem solved

Thank you. I had a FTE every other round. Did this and shot 200 Rds with no issues.

 

[FanofSW]

Big Kudos to njsarn and others for the write-up.

Just purchased a SW22 PC Edit and surely, first mag, a couple of FTEs. Frustrating that after several years of production they still have an issue of this.

Nevertheless, I pulled out the digital calipers and measure the depth of the ejector in relation to the slide, added about -.3mm of bend (tweak) and went back out to test. First two magazines - NO ISSUES! Awesome.

I tried Federals Auto Match and Aguila Super Extras with no issues.

Now I can focus on practicing instead of FTEs. Thanks a lot gents!

 

[fiasconva]

Think my granddaughter's 21st birthday present will be Victory like mine. She loves to shoot it. At least now I know if it has ejection problems what to do. Luckily, mine doesn't. Thanks for the pics on the easy fix.

 

[Ted43040]

Just chiming in to say that bending the ejector inwards toward the centerline of the receiver worked for me, as well. I bought a new Performance Center SW22, and it jammed every round. Yes, every round, right out of the box. I joined this forum exclusively to see the photos in this thread and thought that adding a recent comment was the least I could do to contribute. Again, post-bend=perfect feeding and ejecting.

 

[vroom]

Also joined today to see the pics. Will be trying the bend fix soon. Would like to know what percent have this problem out of the box. I'm pissed that this is something that can be checked w/ a simple gauge before leaving the factory but has not been addressed for 5 years. My first S&W has made a bad 1st impression.

 

[wproct]

Also joined today to see the pics. Will be trying the bend fix soon. Would like to know what percent have this problem out of the box. I'm pissed that this is something that can be checked w/ a simple gauge before leaving the factory but has not been addressed for 5 years. My first S&W has made a bad 1st impression.

Welcome to the forum. Only S&W knows what percent of Victory pistols are returned for service on this issue, I'm guessing that it is relatively low, but certainly enough to get a lot of discussion on forums. I'm also guessing that test firing is no longer part of the production process on these pistols anymore, that part of the process is left up to us.

 

[Slicktop]

Idk, mine must have been made Tue-Thu.
It's been dead nuts reliable.
One thing I do with any new semi is have a drink and start racking the slide up to 500 times, and then shoot quality ammo.
The bolt needs to be cleaned occasionally.
Just my experience.