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cmort666
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I suspect that no actual thought was given to it.
I find the slide no harder to retract than on my 3 1/2" M1911.
Taming the .40S&W
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I find the slide no harder to retract than on my 3 1/2" M1911.
At the risk of being flamed, I confess that my Model 22 is a Model 22C. I also have a model 31C and a Model 32C, and a Model 23C. makes all the difference in the world. And no, you don't go blind at night, singe your beard or nose hairs, or set your shirt on fire. On the other hand, you might set the bad guy's shirt on fire.
amazingflapjack
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The .40 S&W is a very good pistol caliber carbine load. Some carbines are set up to use Glock mags. A friend has one, and he is blessed.
SAAMI spec for the .40 S&W is 35,500 psi; for 10mm, 37,500 psi.
The kabooms were mostly in Glocks, which left a larger unsupported area near the case head, due to the ramp design and Glock has modified that, a time or two. Federal also changed their .40 case design in acknowledgement of kabooms and recalled several lots of .40 ammo. The polymer frame had no involvement.
While that may be true, complaining wouldn't have helped anyway now would it?
And a new recruit probably realized that if they didn't qualify with either of those guns, they wouldn't have a job.
Longhorn1986
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Maybe I missed something. I shot a .40 S&W for the first time Saturday in a PX4. To me, the recoil was the same as a 9 mm. I would have been hard pressed to tell them apart. Admittedly, I primarily shoot .45 ACP in autoloaders. I was surprised that there wasn't more recoil to it.
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cmort666
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That's a very different gun. Try shooting a 2nd Gen G22 with full power loads. It's an altogether different experience.
Faulkner
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While that may be true, complaining wouldn't have helped anyway now would it?
Yeah, I see your point.
I'm glad cmort666 found a solution for his issue. I suppose in my opinion this is a ta-do about an insignificant problem. I really don't find the G22 or G23's recoil to be much different than the equivalent Glock in 9mm. The G22 is certainly tamer than the lightweight J-Frames that seem to be so popular on the forum that no one complains about.
CBus660R
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Could be a case of preconceived notions going on. I doubt anyone expects a lightweight J-frame to be an easy shooting gun, but a full size semi-auto would be expected to be on the lower end of the recoil spectrum.
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Watch some Youtube videos by Jerry Miculek, he shoots every caliber gun, even 500 S&W Magnum, so that it looks like he is shooting a 22 LR.
In one of his videos he says that the more time the gun spends in recoil the less time there is for shooting at the target so he does everything he can to control and eliminate recoil. And by controlling he means shooting technique, not gizmos. Judging by his performances and his videos he does a very good job of that.
In one of his videos he says that the more time the gun spends in recoil the less time there is for shooting at the target so he does everything he can to control and eliminate recoil. And by controlling he means shooting technique, not gizmos. Judging by his performances and his videos he does a very good job of that.
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cmort666
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I've got a 2nd Gen Glock 19 and never had any problems with it, apart from the initially miserable trigger.Yeah, I see your point.
I'm glad cmort666 found a solution for his issue. I suppose in my opinion this is a ta-do about an insignificant problem. I really don't find the G22 or G23's recoil to be much different than the equivalent Glock in 9mm. The G22 is certainly tamer than the lightweight J-Frames that seem to be so popular on the forum that no one complains about.
I shoot a 2" 36-"no dash" with the FBI load. No problems with that.
It's only the Glock 22 that was a problem. With the 22lb. spring it no longer is.
Malpasowildlifer
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How long has the Generation 4 Glocks been out ?
I have only shot one .40, and that is my buddy's Glock 22 Gen4. It doesn't seem bad at all, and he has a 9mm conversion for it and I shot it on the same trip to the range. I really couldn't tell much difference. I guess Glock heard the same complaints about the recoil, but I really don't know if my buddy has changed the spring in it.
Protected One
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But is it harder to rack than before you replaced the spring?
That's the question more so than how it compares to your 1911.
I have a Gen4 23 with the dual recoil springs. It's still a pretty snappy shooter. I'm wondering if a heavier spring is available for it. May look into it.
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cmort666
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Yes, slightly. I'm sure I wouldn't feel the difference in slide velocity if it weren't. It's got enough more resistance to stop the gun from being unpleasant to shoot without making it hard to retract the slide.
I'm pretty sure that somebody like IMSI makes a heavier 4th Gen spring. I'm sure it would make a difference. I doubt that it would make it hard enough to be a problem for somebody with normal hand strength.
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cmort666
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Unfortunately, I'm not a fan of DA/SA guns.
If I got a non-Glock .40S&W, it'd probably be a CZ type converted to SA only.
Rastoff
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The H&K USP can function as a SA or a DA/SA. It just depends on how you run it. It can also be upgraded to the LEM which is another step up yet.
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