Taps and dies N frame

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Because Browbnells no longer carrys them I bought some A2 3/4" and 1 1/4" round stock and used my Brownell's N frame tap and die to make 11 of each. Then I hardened 1 of each. Then I took the rest to my mill and use a 1/4" carbide end mill to put chip reliefs in them. Cleaned them up and ran each of them through the un relieved hardened set a couple times to clean the small burrs from milling operation. Milled the taps to have 7/16" square heads and put a 1/4" dimple in sides of dies for a holder to bit on. Then they got wrapped in stainless foil and a 40 min soak at 1800 f in my ht oven then an air quench (A2= air hardening so good dimensional stability) then a 2 hour temper at 350f so about 61 to 62 Rockwell C. Then all were run back through the original unrelieved set again.

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I don't know how well they would cut virgin threads, but they will certainly chase a set of beat up threads on a barrel or frame. I ran several of the taps though a model 29 frame I got the barrel out of and some of the dies on the barrel.

Gonna be selling most of them once I make holders for the dies (1 1/4" OD)

PS I am making a 5" pinto Smolt 44 mag using a stainless Anaconda barrel and a stainless model 629 cylinder in what was a boring 29-3.
 
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I wouldn't think die holders would be absolutely necessary for thread chasing use. Just machine two parallel flats on the die bodies to get a wrench on it or put the die in a vise. Might need a die holder for cutting fresh full depth threads.
 
I got some heavy wall 1 1/4" pipe in the mail today. Dies just slip inside. Slice it up and tap 3 1/4-20 holes in each of them. Once the pipe is cut up, run em through my drill press and then tap them with a cordless drill. Have a small container of light oil and dip the tap in it after each hole. Won't take very long.

At this point milling flats on them would be hard on even carbide end mills. All a good file would do is get dull. I could grind them with ceramic grit belts, but a real holder will work better
 
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