The Complete 3rd Gen Model List

[GaryS]

Nice list. I don't know if you're interested in listing them as such, but there are two versions of the 3913/3953TSW. The early ones have no rail and seven, not eight, round magazines. I think, but I'd have to look at the SCSW to verify, that the same goes for the 4513TSW and it's DAO counterpart as well.

Did you use Excel to make this? If so, would you be willing to send the .xls sheet along?

 

[skjos]

I bucketed the models with two TSW versions into one line, noting that a fitted frame rail was possible. I did update the magazine quantities to show the two versions capacity. Thanks

I'll get the file out in the near future, after the corrections slow down.

 

[GaryS]

I'll get the file out in the near future, after the corrections slow down.

Thanks. It will come in handy for third generation geeks. Like me!

 

[rwsmith]

Great work......

It may be there, but I don't see the 5943, Stainless slide/Alum. alloy frame DAO

 

[Denver Dick]

I bucketed the models with two TSW versions into one line, noting that a fitted frame rail was possible. I did update the magazine quantities to show the two versions capacity. Thanks

I'll get the file out in the near future, after the corrections slow down.

Oh, I didn't catch the pre-rail issue. I have a 3913TSW pre-rail which, based on serial number, was manufactured in 1999. It's a great pistol and shoots well (see photo below). It should be listed as a separate model because the frame is actually cut so that the seven round magazine with its special magazine base fits flush (see photo). It also works well with the standard 8rd magazine as well. You will note in the 3rd Edition that the TSW with the cut frame was called "Tactical" and produced from 1997-1999. The TSW with the rail and no cut frame was called "9 Tactical Smith & Wesson" and produced from 2000 to Date(?).

You'll probably being getting comments on the list for awhile, so I get that you don't want to be revising every couple of hours.

FWIW

 

[skjos]

5943 is in there.

List updated to show pre-rail models of 3913TSW, 3953TSW, 4013TSW, 4513TSW, and 4553TSW.

Making the list took a long time, but updating it goes pretty quickly.

 

[Hill_Country]

That is a great list and will be very helpful. Perhaps you'll find useful this list I put together when I was trying to figure out the frame sizes. I ended up going through all the parts lists on the S&W site and sorting out which models used the same (Delrin) grips.

Thanks again for the list.


Sub Compact Frame, Single Stack

9mm,
CS9

.40 & .45 cal
CS40, CS45

Compact Frame, Single Stack

9mm
3904, 3906, 3944, 3946, 909, 3953TSW, 3913, 3914, 3914DAO, 3953, 3954, 908

.40 & 45 cal
4513TSW, 4553TSW, 4013, 4014, 4053, 4054, 4516, 4556, 457

Compact Frame, Double Stack

9mm & .40 cal
4013TSW, 4053TSW, 4056TSW, 6904, 6906, 6944, 6946
6924, 6926 (frame mounted decocker)

Large Frame, Single Stack

.45 cal & 10 mm
4563TSW, 4566TSW, 4583TSW, 4586TSW, 4505, 4567, 1006, 1066, 1086, 4506, 4546, 4566, 4586, 4596
1026, 1076, 4526, 4576 (frame mounted decocker)
4536 (frame mounted decocker)

Large Frame, Double Stack

9mm & .40 cal (LG359)
4006CHP, 4003TSW, 4006TSW, 4043TSW, 4046TSW, 410, 4003, 4004, 4006, 4043, 4044, 4046, 411, 5903, 5903SSV, 5904, 5906, 5943, 5943SSV, 5944, 5946, 5967, 5945RCMP, 5903TSW, 5906TSW, 5943TSW, 5946TSW, 910, 915, Super9
4026, 5923,
5924, 5926 (frame mounted decocker)

 

[GaryS]

I have a suspicion that some of those don't actually exist. I know it doesn't make sense to have parts for guns that don't exist, but I think it's the case. About a year ago I saw the 3944/46 on the parts list and asked if anyone had ever heard or seen of one. No one had. There isn't a word in the SCSW about them either. Those would have been full size, single stack, DAO only with alloy or stainless frames.

There may or may not be other phantom guns on your list.

That is a great list and will be very helpful. Perhaps you'll find useful this list I put together when I was trying to figure out the frame sizes. I ended up going through all the parts lists on the S&W site and sorting out which models used the same (Delrin) grips.

Thanks again for the list.


Sub Compact Frame, Single Stack

9mm,
CS9

.40 & .45 cal
CS40, CS45

Compact Frame, Single Stack

9mm
3904, 3906, 3944, 3946, 909, 3953TSW, 3913, 3914, 3914DAO, 3953, 3954, 908

.40 & 45 cal
4513TSW, 4553TSW, 4013, 4014, 4053, 4054, 4516, 4556, 457

Compact Frame, Double Stack

9mm & .40 cal
4013TSW, 4053TSW, 4056TSW, 6904, 6906, 6944, 6946
6924, 6926 (frame mounted decocker)

Large Frame, Single Stack

.45 cal & 10 mm
4563TSW, 4566TSW, 4583TSW, 4586TSW, 4505, 4567, 1006, 1066, 1086, 4506, 4546, 4566, 4586, 4596
1026, 1076, 4526, 4576 (frame mounted decocker)
4536 (frame mounted decocker)

Large Frame, Double Stack

9mm & .40 cal (LG359)
4006CHP, 4003TSW, 4006TSW, 4043TSW, 4046TSW, 410, 4003, 4004, 4006, 4043, 4044, 4046, 411, 5903, 5903SSV, 5904, 5906, 5943, 5943SSV, 5944, 5946, 5967, 5945RCMP, 5903TSW, 5906TSW, 5943TSW, 5946TSW, 910, 915, Super9
4026, 5923,
5924, 5926 (frame mounted decocker)

 

[dacoontz]

Don't forget the RSR 6453 and 6454. They do exist in probably numbers less than 100 and as few as single digits.

Awesome list, that took some time. Had to post so I could refer back to it.

Thank you.

 

[Hill_Country]

I have a suspicion that some of those don't actually exist. I know it doesn't make sense to have parts for guns that don't exist, but I think it's the case. About a year ago I saw the 3944/46 on the parts list and asked if anyone had ever heard or seen of one. No one had. There isn't a word in the SCSW about them either. Those would have been full size, single stack, DAO only with alloy or stainless frames.

There may or may not be other phantom guns on your list.

Gary - I don't know if they exist, but S&W had a parts list on their website for those models when I did that list. That was good enough for me. <G>

The fact that there are models no one has seen is why we need a list to keep up with our third gens.

 

[skjos]

Don't forget the RSR 6453 and 6454. They do exist in probably numbers less than 100 and as few as single digits.

What are the unique features of the 6453 and 6454, they are not listed in the SWSC?

I looked around on the forum and it looks like the 6453 had a white dot front sight and an adjustable rear, and the 6454 had a white dot front sight and novak rear.

I added them to the list.

 

[scwv67]

There was also a 3914TSW. It was like the later version of the 3913TSW.

Thanks for putting this together!

 

[4506517]

My hat is off to you, this is quite an undertaking.

I didn't consult my SCSW, but weren't there non-rail 4563s & 4583s?

Again, someone jump in and correct me if I'm wrong.

 

[k22fan]

That may be a useful list to refer back to. I’m mostly posting so I can find it again but I felt obligated to nit-pick it somehow to justify this reply.

4516-3s exist. Only dash 1s used a single recoil spring. The other dashes used double springs around a smaller diameter rod requiring a smaller hole in the front of the slide. Dash 2s reverted to the double spring. In addition to less lightening cuts which you described dash 1s had reconfigured feed ramps to improve reliability. As far as I know the dash 2 did nothing to improve reliability.

An important change in manufacturing that was not model number specific is worth adding as a foot note. Early DAO 3rd gens used frames and slides that were longer in the rear than TDAs. Latter the same frame and slide were used for both DAO and TDA variations by changing parts.

The quantity of each of the six 10 MM models manufactured is included in historical letter for 10 MMs so don’t finalize your list until someone posts them.

 

[skjos]

Added the 3914TSW.

The SCSW only listed 4563TSW and 4583TSW.

 

[Doug M.]

Gary - I don't know if they exist, but S&W had a parts list on their website for those models when I did that list. That was good enough for me. <G>

The fact that there are models no one has seen is why we need a list to keep up with our third gens.

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FWIW, the 28-1 was a unicorn, believed to be purely theoretical until a few weeks ago when ONE finally surfaced. Could be true of these, too.

Other issue: are there photos of the 6924/6926 and 6944/6946?

 

[epj]

Ye gads! What a list. Truely the gun of the week in those days. I have one in each of the four calibers. I think I'll end my collection right there.

 

[dacoontz]

What are the unique features of the 6453 and 6454, they are not listed in the SWSC?

I looked around on the forum and it looks like the 6453 had a white dot front sight and an adjustable rear, and the 6454 had a white dot front sight and novak rear.

I added them to the list.

You have the right features on the two models. From a factory letter the production numbers of the 6450 are 92 units, the 6453 are 85 units, and the 6454 are 10 units.

The only other thing to add is that the 6451 has a red ramp front sight and rear fixed two white dot sight that is more like a blade and not a novak sight.

EDIT: Good on you, you had all that other info already. Nice!!!

 

[HCH]

Great reference.I suggest you update the production years column. Your data must have been from 2005 or so.

 

[pmosley]

Corrected post