The Government of Mexico vs. Smith and Wesson Corp.

[peter-paul]

Admin Edit-
This was posted as a bare link, which we don't allow. I feel it is a serious threat, so I did not want to delete it.
Probably just another ploy by the powers that be to make life harder and costlier for gun manufacturers. If the gun manufacturers were ever to lose a liability case like this, gun manufacturing would become almost impossible simply from a financial standpoint.


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Mexican Government Sues U.S. Gun Makers over Cartel Crime

 

[quikdraw67]

OK.

So can we sue the Mexican Government for the flow of drugs to the US from the aforementioned Cartels?

Also, how many of the guns used are from US commerical sales?

Anything full auto was either stolen from the Mexican Army or if a full auto AK47, came from the Central American countries who have had ongoing clashes with rebels armed by Cuba.

Nope, not buying what they are selling.

 

[Golphin]

Good luck with that.

 

[CAJUNLAWYER]

Litigation....my lifeblood
Saw that yesterday and wondered about it-Ordinariliary I would think nothing of it buy with all the sh...stuff going on now really hve no idea on where this might wind up

 

[dockmurgw]

Can I sue Mexico for introducing tacos to the American diet?

 

[WCCPHD]

Who is actually behind it?

Soros? Bloomberg?

 

[Iggy]

We could return the $150,000,000.00 worth of fentanyl ( 24 pounds) confiscated by a Wyoming Highway Patrolman as a result of a traffic stop of a speeding undocumented Mexican immigrant as part of the reparations.

 

[browningcollector]

Maybe these gun companies should stop selling their weapons to the Mexican Army, police and national guard of Mexico because I am sure that the cartels are stealing those weapons also. Maybe a former Attorney Generals name is on the lawsuit list, or should be??

 

[arjay]

This is going to be interesting. You have to wonder what cards are being played in the background that we won’t know about

 

[glenwolde]

Wow. I went and read a good deal of the actual filing and that's quite the clever end-run around the "Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act" and the Second Amendment. The contention is that neither apply since the alleged harm was not on U.S. soil. That might get some traction.

You don't have to win in court. Expect the pro-gun side to file lots of suits against the Mexican Government for all of their failings. As a settlement everybody drops everything.

We shall see.

 

[Tadeus67]

Mexican Government Sues U.S. Gun Makers over Cartel Crime

The most stupid thing I have read lately. You are not responsible of who is the final user of your product, nor the intentions of use of that product. If someone use an object in an inlawful manner, that person should be brought to justice......but not the manufacturing company.

Politicians are over rated all over the world, and ignorant and stupid in such a way that they do not deserve our consideration.

Mexican government is going to lose badly

 

[Ugly Hombre]

"So can we sue the Mexican Government for the flow of drugs to the US from the aforementioned Cartels?"

Good question since according to reports some Mexican government officials are aligned with the cartels in drug running and illegal alien human smuggling operations.

Can we sue them for not treating American citizens in Mexico the same way we treat their illigal alien invaders into our country?

Free health care, free income, free transportation into the US etc.? Good for goose good for gander.

Can we sue them for the prison costs of their illegal aliens?

 

[David.Hylton]

Wow. I went and read a good deal of the actual filing and that's quite the clever end-run around the "Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act" and the Second Amendment. The contention is that neither apply since the alleged harm was not on U.S. soil. That might get some traction.

You don't have to win in court. Expect the pro-gun side to file lots of suits against the Mexican Government for all of their failings. As a settlement everybody drops everything.

We shall see.

Since neither apply, how can the U.S. courts apply? Since the courts are based on the constitution, I don't think you can pick and choose.

I wonder what kind of evidence they have? They have to prove it - not just claim it.

I think it's another attempt at gun control through bankruptcy through lawsuits.

 

[USBP SW]

Bring it on! Once that cat is out of the bag, we can start stacking up the expenses incurred by the Mexican government on the United States. We can start with illegal immigration, both by Mexicans and other countries traversing Mexico to enter our country. These expenses are numerous and costly, medical care, welfare and other assistance, criminal activity (police, court costs and incarceration), just to mention a few of the direct costs. You also have the drug smuggling activities both direct and the secondary costs on our society. If Mexico really wants to go down that road, it would open a door to ridiculous lawsuits that would affect everything we know. DWI/DUI involving tequila, Corona, Modelo, maybe the car was made in Mexico. I don't think their tactic of blaming someone else to deflect from their own incompetence and corruption will bear fruit but we live in strange times.

 

[dmar]

Wow. I went and read a good deal of the actual filing and that's quite the clever end-run around the "Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act" and the Second Amendment. The contention is that neither apply since the alleged harm was not on U.S. soil. That might get some traction.

You don't have to win in court. Expect the pro-gun side to file lots of suits against the Mexican Government for all of their failings. As a settlement everybody drops everything.

We shall see.

I have a hunch that our US Attorney General will not fight this legal action from Mexico...

 

[fordson]

Has the threshold into the realm of the totality ridiculous been crossed here? I’d laugh at the concept of Mexico suing American gun manufacturers for their corrupt, ineptitude handling of crime in THEIR own country but for the possibility of enough courts here that would entertain this case.

 

[double-dipper]

I wonder why the Mexican Government didn't sue Eric Holder and Barry Soetoro over Operation Fast and Furious?

 

[eb07]

The most corrupt government in North America (The US is giving it a run for it's money) is blaming someone else for the Cartel violence?


Honestly. If they just return El Chapo, he had things under control to a point. The cartel vs cartel violence is the worst it's been in forever. Too late now, he has been out of power, his son wasn't strong enough and now we have what is going on now.



The US and Columbian government's created the mexican cartel power by taking out the Columbian Cartels..... then they created more violence by removing El Chapo. Sad but true.


Our own government trained the Zeta's in special forces tactics, inadvertently. Then they were arming warring factions hedging their bets on a less violent winner and it backfired.




You will NEVER stop the first world appetite for drugs so there will always be a demand. Remove Pablo and Cali? Guadalajara then Sinaloa, Gulf, Familia Michoacan, etc emerge. Remove the leader of most powerful Mexican cartel? Power struggle occurs.


You can kill every head and another will rise up. It will never stop as long as there is money to be made.



Politicians in mexico get options, work with us or work against us. With us means money and power, against means your family is a target right down to the elderly and small children..... what choice is there?


Russian weapons imported, Chinese weapons imported, American weapons imported. Corrupt military weapons "stolen" That won't stop either.


The whole thing is comical. I guarantee every single politician involved in the lawsuit as been on the take at one time or another from the very cartels they are posturing to stop. It's a huge joke.

 

[luvsmiths]

Litigation....my lifeblood
Saw that yesterday and wondered about it-Ordinariliary I would think nothing of it buy with all the sh...stuff going on now really hve no idea on where this might wind up

You mean like Remington having to pay out to the survivors of Sandy Hook?

Yeah, I'll be interested to see where this goes also.

Never say never, anymore.

 

[RCL-09]

Wow, what a pathetic joke. The most corrupt government in the region that is directly involved, supports, protects and benefits from the drug cartels has the gall to sue...

So some facts.

The Mexican government, at every level, from the president down to the local police officer on the street, is directly involved in the cartels and drug trade, and nothing takes place or happens without their blessing/authorization/involvement.

A large percentage of the firearms come from military and police stores that make their way to the cartels via graft, corruption, payoffs and other malfeasance.

Another large percentage of the firearms come from stores of ComBloc weapons from Central America and other parts.

Weapons that do originate in the U.S. are bought and smuggled into Mexico, in some way shape or form by Mexican nationals. (Buying off custom officials is cheap).

This should be laughed out of court and there should be counter suits for such stupidity.

Sadly, as many seem to point out, the current administration will probably be complicit in the suit as a way to retaliate against firearms manufactures.