The Gun in society. Repeat, thanks original poster.

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It has been posted on this board, with the REAL author's permission, for years.
The author is NOT Maj. L. Caudill USMC (Ret.)
The real author is Marko Kloos, as verified here-
http://smith-wessonforum.com/lounge/209024-gun-civilazation-marko-kloos.html#post136117786


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The gun is Civilazation
by Marko Kloos
" Human beings only have two ways to deal with one another: reason and force. If you want me to do something for you, you have a choice of either convincing me via argument, or force me to do your bidding under threat of force.
Every human interaction falls into one of those two categories, without exception. Reason or force, that's it.
In a truly moral and civilized society, people exclusively interact through persuasion. Force has no place as a valid method of social interaction, and the only thing that removes force from the menu is the personal firearm, as paradoxical as it may sound to some.
When I carry a gun, you cannot deal with me by force. You have to use reason and try to persuade me, because I have a way to negate your threat or employment of force.
The gun is the only personal weapon that puts a 100-pound woman on equal footing with a 220-pound mugger, a 75-year old retiree on equal footing with a 19-year old gang banger, and a single guy on equal footing with a carload of drunk guys with baseball bats.
The gun removes the disparity in physical strength, size, or numbers between a potential attacker and a defender.
There are plenty of people who consider the gun as the source of bad force equations. These are the people who think that we'd be more civilized if all guns were removed from society, because a firearm makes it easier for a [armed] mugger to do his job. That, of course, is only true if the mugger's potential victims are mostly disarmed either by choice or by legislative fiat – it has no validity when most of a mugger's potential marks are armed.
People who argue for the banning of arms ask for automatic rule by the young, the strong, and the many, and that's the exact opposite of a civilized society.
A mugger, even an armed one, can only make a successful living in a society where the state has granted him a force monopoly.
Then there's the argument that the gun makes confrontations lethal that otherwise would only result in injury. This argument is fallacious in several ways. Without guns involved, confrontations are won by the physically superior party inflicting overwhelming injury on the loser.
People who think that fists, bats, sticks, or stones don't constitute lethal force watch too much TV, where people take beatings and come out of it with a bloody lip at worst. The fact that the gun makes lethal force easier works solely in favor of the weaker defender, not the stronger attacker. If both are armed, the field is level.
The gun is the only weapon that's as lethal in the hands of an octogenarian as it is in the hands of a weight lifter. It simply wouldn't work as well as a force equalizer if it wasn't both lethal and easily employable.
When I carry a gun, I don't do so because I am looking for a fight, but because I'm looking to be left alone. The gun at my side means that I cannot be forced, only persuaded.
I don't carry it because I'm afraid, but because it enables me to be unafraid. It doesn't limit the actions of those who would interact with me through reason, only the actions of those who would do so by force. It removes force from the equation… And that's why carrying a gun is a civilized act.


Repeated here for all to ingest.
 
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Great timing! Had a call last night from my youngest who let her CPL expire, I've been riding her butt to get it renewed and I'd pick up the cost but it's been kinda a uphill battle. Since she let it expire 9 months ago she'd have to take a 3 hour class and spend a hour at the range, with two kid's under 5 years of age and a full time job free time comes by hard, still having a permit to carry can be a life saver you just never know when. My daughter has somewhat fallen a sleep to the dangers that surround us every day, like a lot of people " It won't happen to me" well it does happen and today it might be me and having a gun in your pocket beats the heck out of wishing you did! I sent her a E-Mail with a copy of the thread hoping it'll help.
Thanks........Buckey
 
I'd love to read this, but I seem to read the same words again and again.

With utmost respect, line spacing is our friend.
 
Thanks for this posting. It is a clear and logical statement that would be hard for any rational person to dispute. It also will be completely ignored or dismissed by those who fear and hate guns. I thought about re-posting this on my Facebook page, but I know that virtually everyone that I reach via Facebook will roll their eyes, think "there he goes again" and skip to the next item. They are not the least bit interested in discussing the subject since they have an emotional dislike and fear of guns, and for them, that is the end of the discussion. There might be others who would read it, and then state, "but if we all just tried to get along there would be no need for guns". These folks also believe that the government is here to help us, that if we took away the wealth of the rich and gave it to the poor all would be well, and that intentions are more important than outcomes. But I keep trying.
 
I really liked what the king of Montenegro did in the early 1900s. All males over 17 must carry a gun at all times! And no little pocket guns either. The bigger the better!

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I want to thank the OP, as well as the author of this item. I re-posted this, with quotes and attribution to the author, on two motorcycle related websites that I frequent. So far there are almost 60 comments already on this essay. One of these sites is an international one, with many English speaking non-Americans (mostly British and Australian) and it is interesting how many think American's belief and support of the 2nd Amendment is crazy and who are apparently trusting in their government to protect them from violence.
 

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