The "Man Stopper" in .45 Colt....

[zeke]

250 grain GDHP, the hollow point is HUGE.

 

[Nemo288]

250 grain GDHP, the hollow point is HUGE.

That's why those and some like it are called "the flying ashtray".
The 44 version has the biggest hollow I have ever seen.

 

[Dale53]

Back in the early days of the 20th Century, the armies of both Great Britain and the US developed and considered using .45 "Manstopper" bullets. But the final decision was that there was little benefit in doing so.

Regarding the US manstopper bullet, it involved the .45 revolver round. Development began in 1906, and both lead bullets and jacketed bullets were considered. Designs included 230 and 250 grain bullets with large cavities in the nose, and longitudinal cuts in bullet jackets. The project was abandoned in 1907, never to be re-started. So far as I am aware, no "manstopper" bullet designs were ever considered for the .45 ACP.

Of course, the Hague Convention protocols now prohibit use of expanding bullets in combat, and have for quite some time.

It is interesting that the
Hague Convention prohibits the use of expanding bullets but say nothing about blowing off legs with landmines or "frying" people with napalm, etc.

Another situation illustrating "feel good" decisions that essentially do nothing but, in this case, reducing the capability of the individual to protect himself...

FWIW,

Dale53

 

[Rule3]

How many men and horses where "stopped" by the "old original" 45 Colt and a plain old lead bullet??

A big hole is a big hole.

 

[moosedog]

Yes, I agree. Big bullet=big hole. Great theory

 

[max]

American Handgunner has an article this month about some .45 full wadcutters.

 

[Engineer1911]

Real Stopping power!

Are you advocating a 4 shot J-frame in 45 Colt?

Or a 3 shot X-frame?

 

[Charlie Foxtrott]

I load a Hornady 300 grain XTP.

This over 20 grains of Winchester 296 powder. This in my Miroku Winchester 1892 carbine. Pretty serious medicine for white tails.

 

[Nemo288]

Or a 3 shot X-frame?

Gonna need a welding mask to shoot that thing.
Just a bit of muzzle blast I suspect.

 

[Nemo288]

This over 20 grains of Winchester 296 powder. This in my Miroku Winchester 1892 carbine. Pretty serious medicine for white tails.

Good combination.
Nice gun.
Here's mine.

I use a 300 gr. XTP over 30 grains of IMR4227 in the .445SM
Get 1822 fps out of a 17" Encore.

 

[zeke]

That's why those and some like it are called "the flying ashtray".
The 44 version has the biggest hollow I have ever seen.

The "flying ashtray" was a 200 gn jacketed (cupro nickel copper jacket?) hp originally loaded in the 45 acp. Still have over 500 of these on hand. They also work in 45 LC.

Speer's GDHP's are bonded, and the 45 250 grain version is purposely made for the low velocities of a mild load 45 LC pistol. The bonded gdhp will hold together for a huge mushroom, while having enough weight to maintain some momentum.